thanks for the info.
i covered most of the floor in the xpen. hopefully this helps. i would cover my kitchen but i have little ones running around and i don't want them in there with all that paper. so i think i will try it in the xpen first and get them to go in one spot so if and when i do let them have the kitchen they will only go in that one spot. (the xpen is already in the kitchen

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my husband wants them to go outside, bit i don't have a fence so its not easy to just let them out to go. we were looking into an underground fence... i'll have to post a thread about that! thanks again