Oh, we really dont want u to leave...I know some of the posts might come off as harsh, but its different because its typed then if we were actually telling it to u. Believe me, we were all in the same boat as u at one time or another. I too work ALLLLL day and dont get home sometimes until 6-6:30, and Dolce has been in her playpen since 7 in the morning. She is now 10 mths old and believe me she still has accidents. Of course the last thing i wanna do after working all day and sitting in traffic is to come home and clean up pee on my rug or the floor. I have had my "pull my hair out of my head" moments too. I said the "i cant take her anymore"....but then i thought about it and i know its not her fault. Whenever she is out of the playpen, i watch her....earlier in her training i was like a hawk. Eveerytime I saw her going to pee i would grab her and put her on her wee wee pad. It takes time, ALOT of time....but Mickey will get it...i promise. Just be persistent, and of course if u catch him in the act, tell him NO and then take him to the pad. There were alot of good suggestions in ur previous thread from the YT members....i have heeded their advice before and it usually works wonders. Hang in there sweetie....Mickey will be peeing on the pad in no time and we would really like it if u stayed here on the board with us!!!