[Goldielocks19]

I think its my fault too...i try to be persistent, but then feel bad that i am bothering him or putting too much pressure on him.
lol yes i know i am the owner...hee he, but i think owned is more the term.
I will try w/o the treats, seems like a good idea.
my oldest learned without treats,,,,,but exactly like you said, he loves praise.
He goes nuts when i start saying you are a good boy, who is my good boy...he loves it.
My youngest doesnt seem to care lol.