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Originally Posted by BlondieGirl87 Ok, well, I guess we can just agree to disagree about if yorkies were bigger or not to start with.
You proposal about the chi isn't exactly the same. Yorkies are meant to be under 7 pounds so my wanting one under 7 pounds isn't asking for a yorkie that is not what it was supposed to be. Those who specifically breed and want biggger yorkies are looking for a yorkie that is not within the standard.
There are so many types of dog breeds and each and everyone has its own problems, that goes for bulldogs and for yorkies and everything else. The point of the standards is to keep a bulldog looking like a bulldog and not a yorkie!
I agree with you that if someone would dump a dog into a shelter due to it not turning out to be the rights size, they do not deserve to own a dog...it doesn't change the fact that they can and do buy and own dogs.
If in the UK the norm is larger yorkies and more people expect them to be this way than maybe you guys don't have as much of a problem as we do over here with "Big" yorkies being let go or not treated properly.
You sound like you are a breeder that really cares about your dogs and would find them good homes if you did sell them and I give you props for that. However, in my opinion, most people over here that breed very large yorkies are careless breeders that do not care and are just looking to make a quick pup. They breed and sell them while they are young so people think they are buying a little yorkie and then suprise, they realize what they bought was not what they intended.
If the breed standard was changed to not under 5 pounds, then I'd want a yorkie that was not under 5 pounds and if I was a breeder I'd only breed a yorkie that was not under 5 pounds. Standards are set for a reason and that is why, in my opinion, a lot of the time you see dogs that are not registered or are registered with lesser oorganizations with lower standards than the AKC.
I believe every breeder should stop breeding yorkies with the wrong color coats, the wrong type of coats, ones with too short of legs, too big of heads and anything that is not within the breed standard. I don't think anyone can realize how many puppies are out there in puppy mills because of this mentality that we will not have enough yorkies if we don't breed the ones we have....its not true. Perhaps if the lawes were laid downa little firmer and people were made to go by the standard we wouldn't have puppy mills anymore, we wouldn't have thousands of yorkies that are not within the standard being euthanized every year.
I didn't breed Jaden because he's very nervouse, When he sees strangers, we go to a new house, there's loud noises, other dogs, it scares him badly. He starts shaking and spinning in circles and I have to sit and calm him down for about an hour. We've tried medication, toys, taken him to several doctors everything you can think of and nothing helps because that is just the way he is. I make his life as easy as possibly but I still know its hard for him to be around new people, to be around loud noises, all of these things are hard for him. Why in the world would I want to pass that trate on to another dog? Why would I want to make them suffer those same feelings that he has? It doesn't make any sense...
I don't think a yorkie hsa to be hardy or fiesty and like to kill small fury things or fight bigger dogs but they shouldn't have a trait in their personality that makes their life more difficult. Whether that be one that is incredibly shy or too nervouse....some yorkies can be cuddlers, some can be more fiesty, some can be outgoing, some can be total love bugs. That's variations of personality and I have no problem with that. Its the personality traits that aren't helpful to them, the ones that cause them stress and anxiety, I don't see why anyone would want to kee those in this breed or why anyone would want to make another dog suffer with those same traits.
That being said, I believe this thread was started because Carol was looking for information about why people choose to have the tinier ones. I don't think she meant for it to get as esculated as it did. I certainly don't look down on people who own big yorkies...my goodness, I love them all and wish for every yorkie to have a wonderful home. I respect them as much as a yorkie that is within standard but to say they are same they aren't. One is what a yorkshire terrier is supposed to look like and one is not. One is within the standard and one is not. That doesn't make the bigger one less loveable or likeable or anything of the like, it just makes them different. Certainly people have the right and choice to do whatever they like to do, I've never put down a bigger yorkie and I never will. My whole point of posting on this thread was to say that everyone seems to think because you own a tiny one , you must have all these problems and I say no, I own yorkies that are healthy as can be and within the standard. Having an extreme either way...too tiny or too big can cause problems so whether you own a 1 pound dog or an 18 pound dog you'll still have issues and you'll still go to the vet...such is life.
Though we disagree on a few things I know we can both agree that we both love yorkies regardless of their size or any flaws in their looks or traits. They are a special breed that should truly be treasured no matter how big or how little they are. |
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i agree a bulldog should look like a bulldog and a yorkie should look like a yorkie, but with bulldogs its gone to far and is causeing damage to the health of the breed, and i think larger yorkies still do look like yorkies but saying that i think it has got something to do with where you live as here in the uk as i said larger ones are the norm so we are use to them and no one bats an eyelid if they see one but if they see a tiny they ask if its a cross, and i understand its the opposite in the usa.
your right we dont get many yorkies in rescue centres at all, and the ones that are are all sizes tiny, middle and big.
im not a breeder, i only had 2 pups from scampi and sasha which like i said i kept, i couldnt breed as i couldnt part with them and id end up over run with yorkies lol
scampi and sasha were both fiesty terriers but tye and zac are complete wimps and nothing like there mum or dad so temperment isnt always pasted on to pups but i agree temperment should be considered.
and i agree to many horrible breeders are just about the money.
id also say most dogs are not registered in the uk if they are not going to breed them or show them, if they are just family pets theres not much point, ive never registered any of mine.
i also agree i dont think just cos its a tiny it must be unhealthy.
i think we can both agree we love are yorkies no matter what.
