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Originally Posted by BlondieGirl87

As FLDebra said: QUOTE FROM YTCA.org: "Almost all of the classes were divided by weight. The classes were for Broken Haired or Rough Scotch Terriers less than 5 lbs. or 6 lbs. and under; Toy Terriers 4 lbs. and under, or 5 lbs. not exceeding 7 lbs., or 6 lbs. and over; or Blue Scotch Terriers under 7 lbs. or 7 lbs. not exceeding 9 lbs. The largest weight class in which they were reported to have been shown was for Broken Haired Scotch Terrier 9 lbs. not exceeding 12 lbs. This record should prove that although there were larger Yorkshires they were not being shown at the dog shows. The record proves that the small size was available for breeding from early days." ........AND.... "The Yorkshire standard of 1890 says"
"Weight divided into two classes, under five pounds and over five pounds, but not to exceed twelve pounds."
." http://ytca.org/history.html Now one breed that went into the MIX to make a Yorkie was larger -- the Clydesdale -- but the Clydesdale was only part of the Yorkshire makeup.

No doubt there were some biggies then as now -- but the standard is now "not to exceed 7 pounds" and that should be what is strived for in breeding. No matter how careful a breeder is, there are bound to be some that wind up over the standard, just as some will have floppy ears, soft coats, and mismarked colors....and we love them all.
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Orginally yorkies were not bigger, they've gotten bigger as the breed has become more and more popular and more people start breeding them.
I have nothing against people who want or have large yorkies. I don't fault them whatsoever, but to breed for a yorkie thats 18 pounds?? Yes, I find that unethical and not right. I believe in sticking within the standards and that is under 7 pounds. If they wish to change the standards in the future to 35 pounds then I'll advocate that they stay under 35 pounds but so far the standard hasn't been changed and in my opinion shouldn't be changed. Its been this way for so long now and just because some people like the larger yorkies why should we change what they really are? If you want a larger yorkie why not consider a different type of the breed like a silkie? They still look like a yorkie but it is within their standard to be bigger.

My Jaden has 67 AKC champions in his bloodline and is AKC and only 4 pounds. He was meant to be a show dog and was perfect in every way, proportion, size, coloring etc. However, he is extremely nervouse which is a tempermant that is not beneficial to the breed. Because of this I wanted him to be nuetered. I would never, ever breed him because his pups might be of a nervouse tempermant the same way he is and in my opinion that isn't bettering the breed. Now, I could've said, he's gorgeous, he's a $5,000 dollar dog, and I am going to breed him because I want his babies, but I didn't because it wouldn't have bettered the breed so I did what I believed was the correct thing to do. If someone wishes to breed two yorkies that are over the standard to have puppies in my opinion, I think that's wrong because its not bettering the breed. When those pups are grown whose to say whoever gets them doesn't decide to breed them to something else or another large yorkie and then 10 years down the road guess what...the 20 pound white fuzzy short haired dog over there is a yorkie!


The breed standards are stated for a reason, not because some men in business suits just wanted to write up some contracts. They have the dogs best interest in mine, a yorkie was meant to look and act a certain way and if they are kept within the standard they will.

In my opinion too many people out there breed because they just love their dogs and want more of them or want more yorkies instead of doing whats right for the breed as a whole. I say leave breeding up to the profesionals who really know what they are doing and do their research and breed yorkies that are within the standard. We have enough dogs in shelters because too many people start breeding when they shouldn't and sell pups to people they shouldn't and then the dogs end up being given up or taken away and where does that leave them? Its not their fault they were bred, its not their fault someone bought a puppy looking for a 4-5 pound yorkie and ended up with a 15 pound yorkie that they gave away...ultimately we must remember that even though they are dogs they feel and hurt just like we do. Why in the world would you want to breed something and sell something that someone would buy thinking it would be one thing and it would turn into something entirely different. Not everyone in the world are like people here on YT. Some people will give a dog away or put it down if its not what they had in mind...why would you risk doing that to something? I know I never would.

yorkies started off being bigger than they are today thats a fact, just cos they were not in the ring doesnt mean a thing , the people who had the first yorkies were working class and did not show them.
as for why not get a silky, well cos i wanted a yorkie and have had them over 20 years, its not just about how they look its about how there are.
i could say if someone wants a tiny dog why dont they get a chi.
they have the dogs best interest in mind?, if thats so what happened to bulldogs?
bred to have such flat faces they cant breath, heads so big they cant give birth.
thats just one of the breeds thats got health problems due to breed standards.
if someone got a puppy that got bigger than they thought it would do so dumped it in a rescue imo they dont deserve to have a dog in the first place if they are that shallow.
you said why breed something that someone might buy thinking it will be something else and turn out not to be, in the uk the larger yorkies are more the norm so here most people would expect the larger yorkie anyway.
i kept my tye and zac but if i had of homed them i would make sure they went to a good home where the owners cared more about the dogs than what they looked like and made them give them back to me if they could no longer keep them, and i would expect any good breeder to do the same.
i wonder how people would feel if the breed standard was changed to say under 5 pounds is not breed standard.
if every breeder stopped breeding yorkies over breed standard, they should also stop breeding ones with floppy ears, the wrong colour coat, ones without a silky coat, ones with short legs, big heads, and any thing thats not the perfect breed standard, where would that leave us? with hardly any yorkies left thats where.
you said you wouldnt breed your little one cos he hasnt got the terrier personalitiy, well that would also add all yorkies who dont act like a terrier cant be bred with, so if your yorkie isnt hardy,fiesty,likes killing small furies and fighting with bigger dogs than its self, oh and no terrier would let anyone put a dress on it so none of them should be bred with then ?.
as ive said its all about choice, i think this post might of been started cos some people with the tiny yorkies look down on are biggies as if they are not good enough to be called a yorkie.
its all about choice, its YOUR choice to buy a tiny and its MINE to buy a biggie.
one is not better than the other tiny small middle large or the size of a cow, they are all yorkies and i love them warts and all.