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  Thanks -- I have one DVD on grooming now.  I will take a look at the AKC site and see about another.  I am sure I will need all the reviewing of them I can get.  
 As to the face -- yes -- and I think it was probably the thinning shears I was missing.  When I did my late Maggie's face it tended to look choppy no matter what I did.  But just mentioning thinning shears makes me realize how to fix that I think.
 Ben's hair is very thin and silky -- so I may let his continue to grow.  But Sadie seems to have much thicker hair and I am sure she will need it shorter for summer if they intend to play outside as much as they do now.  The last two mornings have been a little cold in FL and they are big babies about that!
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