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Originally Posted by Mardelin I'm a bit confused about your statement on AKC judges pulling orange cards on Biewer dogs......It's my understanding that AKC does not recognize the Biewer as a breed onto itself.....
No, I don't think yorkies were awarded points just for showing up. If you study the history of the yorkie and how it has evolved....dog showing was a sport of gentry.....Yorkies evolving from Huddersfield Ben of Great Britian.
Though their are other registries within the United States, and I'm sure wonderful places to show & learn without the politics. Eukanuba, Westminster are AKC events, as are the majority of dog shows in the country.
The point system for obtaining Championship is still 15 points any where in the US, of those 15 it requires 2 Major Wins.....that is what differs from region to region. California, requires less dogs & bitches for a Major than say maybe, Texas/OK....Competition is still stiff, now matter where you go, as there are wonderful speciman's of the yorkie in every region. Then you have the handlers that travel all over the country campaigning with top dogs that can show up at anytime. Or you go to a Breed Specialty, where hundreds of the best dogs show up and the competition is really stiff. You can visit the AKC website and it explains the point system, region and breed. |
Hope to clear up some of your confusion, the show in California was an IABCA show, as Cindy stated, but the judges are AKC and CKC (Canadian). And I did see them pulling orange cards on less than standard dogs. You are correct that the AKC does not recognize the Biewer. Hopefully in the future, they will. There is also the possibility they never will. All breeds have had to "pay their dues" so to speak, in order to become an AKC sanctioned breed. Time will tell with the Biewer.
As far as "dogs showing up to get points" back in the early Yorkie show history, I would think that there were not as many dogs showing as there are today. As an example, the possibility that there were only 3 dogs showing, would they all "place" First, Second or Third? In today's ring, if there were 15 dogs showing, 3 dogs would "place" and 12 would go home with no win. I will be the first to say that I do not understand the point system of the AKC, and it looks like now I have more research to do. Thank you for the suggestion to read about it.
Here is a quote that I found on another thread that addresses what Cindy pointed out about AKC dogs being shown in different places in the country in order to finish their dogs where the competition is not so difficult.
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Originally Posted by Mardelin I've heard that Majors have been difficult on the East Coast. Not here in the Central States. A no longer Member of YT sent her dog out here and he finished in 7 shows, including breed from the classes and a Group 4. On the average I've finished my dogs in 6 - 7 months and maybe showing 1 weekend a month.
Specialty is a great place to learn..... the pace is very fast, intense and confusing. You have Sweeps on all day friday, beginning at 8 in the morning until late in the afternoon. NY Club all day Saturday and the Mother Club on Sunday. If you get to come, wear something that can I can pick out, I'd love to meet you. |
I want to add that I am NOT dissing the AKC shows at all. I too realize that they are the "premium" shows to attend, both as an entrant and a spectator. The dedication. hard work and expense that it takes to show your dogs is overwhelming. I have enormous respect for anyone taking on that challenge -- regardless what registry they are showing in. I love to watch the Eukanuba and Westminster -- not only to get a glimpse of the gorgeous yorkies who are up for Best in Group -- but to enjoy the beauty and glory of ALL the breeds. I feel that the dogs who reach this level are truly the best of the best -- politics or not! And, maybe sometime in the future, I will have the pleasure of watching the Biewer there as well.
Please keep us informed of your accomplishments, as well as helping us to learn from your expertise. Good luck!