Thanks Julie, all sorted now, i had installed a new firewall and it was interfering with them so i have uninstalled it and installed a different one, i was going out of my mind wondering what the hell had happened to them, i knew i had done nothing wrong, and i won't let Ian touch the PC and like all men he knackers things then blames me, or the dogs or the grandson who by the way is only 5weeks old, and you wouldn't believe it but he blamed the poor little thing for leaving the lawn mower out the other day
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so all is now peacefull and smilie
again in my house thank you for your kind offer, might need it when i try to put some pictures of Noah on the board as this one is different to other boards i have used, but i will have a go before i cry for help
