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Originally Posted by suejenkin Having just been blessed with triplet puppies, my husband and myself are so
enjoying the experience, we think we would like to breed on a regular basis. I'm not talking about a puppy factory here! But maybe one or two litters a year. Does anyone know if there are any legal requirements for such a venture, or any council bylaws? We live in Cornwall.
Also, the proud parent Yorkies came to us from a very reputable breeder in Exeter and both have good pedigrees, (Lilys grandmother was a Crufts champion)!
With the triplets, they obviously deserve a pedigree having such well bred parents, but I don't know how to go about it. Are there forms you can buy and if so, do I have to give our own bred Yorkies, currently known as Daisy, Maisie and Dodi, a posher more fancy name, for the Pedigree?
Also what is the position re the kennel club?, when we bought our first Yorkie I asked if he was kennel club registered and the breeder said, no, but she would do it if we wanted. She said it was really only necessary if we were planning to show, which we are not, so I didn't bother, but am now wondering if I should have? some advice please as I have no idea exactly what the kennel club is/does! Sue |
I apologize now if anything I say upsets you!
However!...I was going to start a thread on Breeding and going to get peoples responses to it...
PLEASE DO NOT BREED FROM YOUR YORKIE!!! Until she is at least 2 years old! Yorkies need to mature properly and whilst she is still growing and maturing she needs all her energy going into herself!
Also ask yourself WHY you want to breed and what motivates you? If it's money forget it...to breed a decent litter and provide what might be very expensive Veterinary care you need an overdraft!!!
If you have a small Yorkie(there's no such thing as a miniature Yorkie in the UK KC Breed Standard) you may well kill her if you let her get pregnant!
There are far too many poor quality Yorkies and other breeds of dogs being bred in the UK...so many that rescue centres stand no chance of rehoming all the dogs and inevitably some get euthanased.
As you state in your post she is TOY sized(again there is no such size in the breed standard!) there are just Yorkshire terriers! Bitches should be 7 to 7 and a half pounds, they say this so that under size Yorkies are NOT bred from and put at risk! Males should be 3-4 pounds. Go to
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/199 to see the breed standard and have a re-think PLEASE!
all the best, Dawn
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Hi, please don't think I mean to be bossy or interfering or anything...buuuuttt....didn't you have problems finding homes for two little boys you bred earlier in the year?
I just wondered why you want to breed again if you have problems finding homes?
I own and Show Yorkies, yet have only 'sired' one litter so far! Mine are well bred, have fantastic heritage and do well in shows...in fact my friend is Secretary of the Cheshire and North Wales breed club. We tend to have waiting lists for pups anyway, although they are a tad more expensive, they are in demand I'm just interested is all and quite nosey!
Anyway, I look forward to hearing from you and how you resolve finding homes...do you advertise on the Kennel Club website? I think a few people tend to go there to the Puppy list to see what is available?
All the best, Dawn
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These are two replies I have added to posts about puppies already..I have changed my user name from Newfie to Yorkie dreams!
I think it is too late to register them at the KC, but I might be wrong...as I've already said I think people need to examine their motives for breeding...having a Pedigree and improving a breed are two very different things...the only way to assess the true quality of your dogs is to Show them, where they are judged against the Breed Standard and placed in the Shows accordingly. Having been showing and breeding for over 25 years I know that having a pedigree, however many champions are in it, is different to the quality of the pups. The other way to assess them is to get someone who Judges(like me) to go over the dogs and really examine them and give a true account of their type. I think anyone who sells pups will always say their dogs are great examples of the breed and sell them accordingly! If people are generally 'pet owners' how on earth can they say they're good or not?? They don't know as they have no knowledge of what makes a good show dog or not do they?
In fact I think Yorkies have so many things to get right when you breed it's damn near impossible to breed a 'correct' Yorkie...there is coat type, bone structure, lay back of shoulders, colours of tans and steel blue coat...I certainly see a fair few 'wooly' back Yorkies in the ring! Coat texture is incredibly hard to get right and generally, the coat should be like cool silk to run your hand over. Another problem with Yorkies is mouth dentition and jaws...do you know if you dogs have an even, scissor, over or under shot jaw?? Do you know how many teeth they should have? Do you know their ear set? If you read the breed standard properly these are all the things that need to be taken into account...and finally...have you got a purse big enough to pay a large Vet bill if the worse should happen and you have no live pups to sell, but a poorly bitch to deal with? It's not quite it actually! Something else I would like to add again... Is your breeding IMPROVING the breed itself and breeding OUTR faults, rather than breeding them IN? Do you know how to check their lineage to see which type of breeding there is in the lines and what lines to avoid(i.e the lines with all the problems I could mention?) You only really get knowledge like this with careful studying, showing and breeding the RIGHT type of dogs! Again I say...there are far Too many pet yorkies being bred already and I can only imagine the motive to adding to an already over bred breed! If the motives are right then surely you should be doing all the homework and investigation, usually under a mentor who already knows a fair amount about the breed, BEFORE you allow a bitch to have a litter??
I would be very interested to know others views on breeding and why they find it neccessary to produce more puppies?
The general rules on how many litters it takes each year to be classed as a commercial Breeder varies from local council to local council...if you breed ONE litter at anytime, you are, by definition, a breeder! You also need to think very carefully about how many litters you breed from each bitch and the length of time between each litter! Generally bitches should be over 18 months and preferably 2 years old to begin with, no more than one litter each year(or generally not EVERY season...but every other season, provided they have a season every 6 months and not a shorter time in between) There should be someone there continually from birth till about 4 to 5 weeks old(the puppies ages I mean) they should NEVER be left alone! Pups are tiny and need to avoid a hypoglycaemic episode and puppies can fade very rapidly as they are so tiny! I would suggest reading the Book of the Bitch, available from Our Dogs website or Amazon and finally, please go and read about breeding from your dog at
http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/89071.html this site...it's also worth joining the Champ Dogs forum as there are people there that will give invaluable advice and help to less knowledgable breeders!
Sorry for going on so much, but this is an area I feel very very passionate about!!
All the best, Dawn