This is all somewhat comforting to hear. My dad and brother are NOT like this so as I read about all of the men on this thread and compare them to my boyfriend I'm beginning to realize that I'm not alone. I have to light a fire under his a$$ to get him to do anything. I've been having back issues since July so I didn't even put up my big tree this year because I knew that I would be stuck taking it down by myself (which I'm currently unable to do). My solution was this...I put up this tree this year on my desk. It took less than 5 minutes to put up and take down AND I was able to do it myself