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Originally Posted by topknot Some of you guys just don't get it, do you. I have seen yorkies over the years, since 1979 and we are having some real problems with them now. Why? Because we are having people not do the research or testing on their dogs before breeding/ How many on YT that have pups now or are expecting really actually did the testing. Some may have researched lines, but I bet most did not.
If you want just a pet - why would you want to breed it. If you want pups, be up front with the breeder, do the research, testing, and pay a little more for good quality dogs.
I have had people lie right to my face when they wanted a pup and said they promised not to breed the pup and then found out - they slip and actually was the reason they wanted a pup was to eventually breed.
Now we are having people buy AKC pups sign the contract and then go to CKC (Continental) or one of the other registeries behind our backs. The breeder even states that they will guide and help the person in order to breed right - test, pick the right stud, etc... And then then they still went behind their backs and changed registeries becasue they did not want someone telling them what to do, instead of thinking how lucky they were.
With this going on - we are learning not to trust buyers. Sorry, but true. This is why most are asking for adoption applications and spending more and more time talking with buyers.
You are paying for the quality and heritage on a dog when the breeder sets the price. Also the health, since we are also doing the bile acid tests and checking petellas. Having extra testes or uterus - does not mean the dog is worth more - if you just want a pet, companion. You should be happy they are spayed or neutered! Most breaders are going to having the pups already done now when they sell the pups, because of people changing registers now!
I will probably have mine done before they are placed. Should I then as a reputable breeder be penalized and have to charge less for my pups because they are spayed and neutered, when in fact I have had to pay more for them to be spayed or neutered. I do not think this is fair.
The reason I would want my pups in a pet home, maybe being they would be the only dog and they get the one-on-one attention, but I should not have to sell them less because of this.
No one can tell if their pups are worth breeding till they are at least 5-6 months. So if you want a pup from me younger than 5 or 6 months - it will probably be spayed or neutered or at least a solid contract to do so.
I know a lot of breeders - top ones - and if you want a dog from them it will be spayed or neutered unless you can prove you show or have some reputation (good).
There are no short cute to breeding and doing it right. I spay or neuter to protect their lines and my name. I never want to see my name on a pedigree of a dog that is not up to par - really ugly and one with problems. And it can happen if I do not protect my pups. I cannot guarantee that future buyers will do their research and test their dogs before breeding to make sure the quality stays up there. Most reputable breeders feel the same way. So the next time you look for a nice pup - don't think you should get a discount because they are spayed or neutered. You should think how lucky you are!
And if you want to breed - do your research, buy an older pup, pay a little more, test your dogs, and be glad that a breeder wants to help you by mentoring you!
All JMO!
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