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carteryorkies · 10-27-2006, 07:01 AM

I am so sorry she has had this experience. Her puppy came down with the demodex about one to two weeks ago, according to what she wrote me. I was working til late at night and didnt see her emails for several days. It is harvest time,and we have a drought going so we have been working very late. She had my number. She could have called. Instead she got furious and decided to hurt me. (She emailed that she was going to hurt me.) Her Gia was beautiful, and fine for several months after she received her. That is why she wanted another puppy from me.

Ive been reading up on this demodex and it can definitely be brought about by stress or poor diet. I am not sure what brought hers about. If the parents had it, they never showed any signs. This is a fact which can be verified by my vet. None of my Yorkies have had any signs of demodex, until Gia in New Jersey. I have read that all dogs have the mites and just some break out with them, due to stress. It makes me wonder what has happened in the months since I sold her that puppy?

We agreed for her to buy this puppy she named Chewy several months ago and she just never paid for him. I found out she does not tell the truth when she claimed to send a payment for him , and later pretended to be worried that it had not arrived. It took weeks. I was concerned, and finally it arrived. It was postmarked for two days before it arrived, and the purchase date on the money order was also two days before! So, she was lying on that issue too. I have the printed proof.

This was the parents first litter and neither of them have ever had the Demodex problem, nor have their grandparents who I also raised. I dont believe Chewy had worms or Demodex. I know for a fact she does not tell the truth all the time. I have not seen her vets report, but I do know he passed my vets inspection the day before he flew out of here! If he had worms after being treated on my regular deworming schedule with anthelcide and with ivermectin for the ear mites, then I'll eat my hat! What she wrote to me was, "I'll bet he has demodex too and probably worms!" She assumed the worst. He did have puppy dermatitis- a skin rash- on his tummy ...which is not a normal place for demodex. Acccording to vet info it is found on the shoulders, back, or neck areas, usually. I bought an antibiotic which we discussed on the phone and I shipped it to her in ice packs to continue its use. He had ear mites which I had already treated with ivermectin for those. I am a caring person. I love my puppies. We discussed both conditions the morning he was to be shipped, and she still wanted him shipped. So I sent him.

I sign my litters up for AKC health insurance which is free for 60 days for the new owners. Its one of the perks of buying an AKC puppy, so that vet bills should have been covered with no expense to her. She is crying about Chewys vet bills but if she tells the truth, she should not have any.

He was in the crate for the plane from 8 am til 7 pm, due to airline delays. They require you to be there an hour early. He was clean, freshly bathed, before he left here. She was furious that he smelled bad. That is unreasonable to think any puppy would take a long series of flights and delays! and not get air sick, or pee, and smell bad. So she tried to use that to make me look bad too.

He was three months old when he was sold and five months old when she had him paid for. I have had him a long time, and he is attached to me.. I told her he was the quiet type of puppy who will sit on your lap to be brushed or watch tv, and takes a bath so sweetly. He is not the hyper type like his sister. She told me that would be good - he might be a good influence on his sister, whom she says is wild. Now she claims he was abused. That is another lie. She is using his personality against me to try to make me look bad, even tho' he was just as I described and she liked it before. I told her it would take time for him to adjust since Ive had him for so long.
I recently bought an older puppy from another breeder. It has taken patience for her to warm up to us, as well, but we would not dream of claiming she was abused! As a matter of fact, those folks are very reputable, they show , and are on the YTCA board!! AND they toured my place and saw my dogs and thought that pup might be show quality. They LOVED the parents! So, they obviously saw and knew my dogs are healthy and happy. I am not a big breeder. My dogs get plenty of attention by my children and me and are played with alot and well socialized on our farm. Chewy is just a calm one. I am sure the unpleasant flight delays didnt do him any good either. She should have been more patient with him. Instead she chose to make it public on YT in a way that might damage my reputation. I am sure everyone has known someone like this... VERY emotional and impatient, not knowledgeable, very quick to judge and think the worst of others.....hurtful... I could go on. But this is my first experience with a client trying to hurt my reputation, trying to put a negative spin on things which we discussed and she knew ahead of time.

I have given her several times to back out of the agreement during the long time she has delayed, including by phone the day he was shipped. During this delay she did not mention that Gia had demodex to me, but I see now that she did write to YT that she had used a human shampoo and Gia broke out right after that. Perhaps the stress of that human shampoo was the problem which started Gias irritation and allowed the mites in...

I know she has already written in many times and has many people upset at me. I was just made aware of this thread last night. But please, before you make judgements, weigh into it the fact that until this litter, I have never had demodex in 33 years of raising and loving Yorkies. Please consider my side as well. And thank you to those of you who didnt blindly accept everything she says as fact. It is not fact. Much of it is fiction.

10-27-2006, 07:01 AM	#52
carteryorkies Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 31	Responsible I am so sorry she has had this experience. Her puppy came down with the demodex about one to two weeks ago, according to what she wrote me. I was working til late at night and didnt see her emails for several days. It is harvest time,and we have a drought going so we have been working very late. She had my number. She could have called. Instead she got furious and decided to hurt me. (She emailed that she was going to hurt me.) Her Gia was beautiful, and fine for several months after she received her. That is why she wanted another puppy from me. Ive been reading up on this demodex and it can definitely be brought about by stress or poor diet. I am not sure what brought hers about. If the parents had it, they never showed any signs. This is a fact which can be verified by my vet. None of my Yorkies have had any signs of demodex, until Gia in New Jersey. I have read that all dogs have the mites and just some break out with them, due to stress. It makes me wonder what has happened in the months since I sold her that puppy? We agreed for her to buy this puppy she named Chewy several months ago and she just never paid for him. I found out she does not tell the truth when she claimed to send a payment for him , and later pretended to be worried that it had not arrived. It took weeks. I was concerned, and finally it arrived. It was postmarked for two days before it arrived, and the purchase date on the money order was also two days before! So, she was lying on that issue too. I have the printed proof. This was the parents first litter and neither of them have ever had the Demodex problem, nor have their grandparents who I also raised. I dont believe Chewy had worms or Demodex. I know for a fact she does not tell the truth all the time. I have not seen her vets report, but I do know he passed my vets inspection the day before he flew out of here! If he had worms after being treated on my regular deworming schedule with anthelcide and with ivermectin for the ear mites, then I'll eat my hat! What she wrote to me was, "I'll bet he has demodex too and probably worms!" She assumed the worst. He did have puppy dermatitis- a skin rash- on his tummy ...which is not a normal place for demodex. Acccording to vet info it is found on the shoulders, back, or neck areas, usually. I bought an antibiotic which we discussed on the phone and I shipped it to her in ice packs to continue its use. He had ear mites which I had already treated with ivermectin for those. I am a caring person. I love my puppies. We discussed both conditions the morning he was to be shipped, and she still wanted him shipped. So I sent him. I sign my litters up for AKC health insurance which is free for 60 days for the new owners. Its one of the perks of buying an AKC puppy, so that vet bills should have been covered with no expense to her. She is crying about Chewys vet bills but if she tells the truth, she should not have any. He was in the crate for the plane from 8 am til 7 pm, due to airline delays. They require you to be there an hour early. He was clean, freshly bathed, before he left here. She was furious that he smelled bad. That is unreasonable to think any puppy would take a long series of flights and delays! and not get air sick, or pee, and smell bad. So she tried to use that to make me look bad too. He was three months old when he was sold and five months old when she had him paid for. I have had him a long time, and he is attached to me.. I told her he was the quiet type of puppy who will sit on your lap to be brushed or watch tv, and takes a bath so sweetly. He is not the hyper type like his sister. She told me that would be good - he might be a good influence on his sister, whom she says is wild. Now she claims he was abused. That is another lie. She is using his personality against me to try to make me look bad, even tho' he was just as I described and she liked it before. I told her it would take time for him to adjust since Ive had him for so long. I recently bought an older puppy from another breeder. It has taken patience for her to warm up to us, as well, but we would not dream of claiming she was abused! As a matter of fact, those folks are very reputable, they show , and are on the YTCA board!! AND they toured my place and saw my dogs and thought that pup might be show quality. They LOVED the parents! So, they obviously saw and knew my dogs are healthy and happy. I am not a big breeder. My dogs get plenty of attention by my children and me and are played with alot and well socialized on our farm. Chewy is just a calm one. I am sure the unpleasant flight delays didnt do him any good either. She should have been more patient with him. Instead she chose to make it public on YT in a way that might damage my reputation. I am sure everyone has known someone like this... VERY emotional and impatient, not knowledgeable, very quick to judge and think the worst of others.....hurtful... I could go on. But this is my first experience with a client trying to hurt my reputation, trying to put a negative spin on things which we discussed and she knew ahead of time. I have given her several times to back out of the agreement during the long time she has delayed, including by phone the day he was shipped. During this delay she did not mention that Gia had demodex to me, but I see now that she did write to YT that she had used a human shampoo and Gia broke out right after that. Perhaps the stress of that human shampoo was the problem which started Gias irritation and allowed the mites in... I know she has already written in many times and has many people upset at me. I was just made aware of this thread last night. But please, before you make judgements, weigh into it the fact that until this litter, I have never had demodex in 33 years of raising and loving Yorkies. Please consider my side as well. And thank you to those of you who didnt blindly accept everything she says as fact. It is not fact. Much of it is fiction.