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Old 10-26-2006, 10:57 PM   #32
ali22
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New Jersey
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I started this thread because I wanted help in finding a breeder I can trust. I just want a good healthy pet from a reliable person who I can rely on to help me if I have any problems or questions down the road. I want communication with them long after the purchase has been made. I'm not interested in a show dog. I LOVE long legs and find down ears really cute on certain dogs. I'm not concerned with an impeccable coat either. They're imperfections to you, but they're beautiful and unique to me. And I would never EVER breed my dogs regardless of the "defects" I find attractive.

I appreciate all the help people have given me but am so disheartened that some members can so easily discredit an individual because of the stigma of a name they carry. I just can't believe how nasty this thread has gotten.

Kaymo, you say that your posts are never directed to top notch themselves, but you post these really negative opinionated comments on threads that are discussing her. It just seems like you are always singling her out that all. You've implied such suspition whenever a new yorkie talk member comes on and talks about TNY, but there has been posts about them way before a few months ago, it's not like she's anything new. I think it's wonderful that yorkie talk is getting more members and if she's bringing more people to the site, then great! We should be making them feel welcome and be thankful the word is spreading about this site! These forums are so informative, and it's great that more people are educating themselves on the Yorkie breed. And ultimately I do believe that that is your intention, but you can be so abrasive to these new members sharing their success about TNY. Their motives for joining shouldn't be questioned. All thats going to do is give yorkie talk a bad rep for having mean members and turn people off to the site.

In your reply post to me you said that you never said she was selling sick puppies, but you're very adamite that she buys from puppy mills. But don't sick dogs and puppy mills go hand in hand? I don't think you can have one without the other. And I am not supporting her, but obviously I'm questioning things said about her that I think are unfair. To quote you "You've never seen the parents or their living conditions so you can't make a judgement about where they come from" ......BUT NEITHER HAVE YOU, so neither CAN you! Yet you've asserted your opinions with such certainty that they could easily be taken for fact in regards to this particular broker! To accuse or imply that ALL brokers, which includes top notch, equals puppy mills is a serious accusation. This individual has a good reputation, why tarnish it with assumptions? How can you make up your mind about someone that you don't even know or have met? I just don't understand that. Why is it not a possibility that she is different?

And I am 100% percent against puppy mills. No living creature should ever be put through that torture. I've seen what a puppy mill does to a dog, and that broke my heart. Just because I am sticking up for a broker, doesn't mean I support puppy mills! I was very offended by that comment and thought it was cruel remark to make. I felt that you insulted the core of my love for animals. I would never falsely accuse someone of supporting puppy mills. Especially a dog lover.

Drdolittle's integrity was most definitely questioned when she first posted. And everyone knows it's very hard not to take the offensive. I think yorkie talk should embrace vets, as they can offer the best advice in caring for your pup, especially if this particular vet deals with yorkies, and tiny ones at that, it could be really helpful to members. And I'm sure that she could/would have answered any question, FOR FREE. Which could be very useful to yorkie members that do not always have the funds to frequently visit the vet. ALTHOUGH, I did find her post to be inappropriate as well. I don't think anyone should be dug into like that. It must be very hard not to get personal when you're in a heated discussion, especially when the topic is about someone you hold the highest regard. But everyone DESERVES respect.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but forcefully imposing your own is never as effective as helpful education. These forums shouldn't be used to intimidate. Nobody likes a bully. And the anti-broker posts can be very intimidating when you've had a good experience with one and are afraid to post what a great experience you had, because you'll just get bombarded with negative posts. I agree that the misconception that surrounds brokers and breeders should be set straight. I think that is a valuable piece of information that should be made clear. But in your words of wisdom you're getting in the specifics about a particular broker whether you intended to or not. Giving a heads up about a specific breeder or broker through first or second hand experience, is a valuable piece of advice that yorkie seekers should take very seriously. We're all on here to learn and to seek advice, please don't let racism interfere with such a outlet of genuine knowledge. I doubt any of us would appreciate being ridiculed and shunned because we fit in an unpleasant category. There are always acceptions. Always.
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