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Donna Jean · 10-23-2006, 09:22 AM

I now know why some breeders do not use pedigree's on her web site and does not let you know who the parents are of the puppies they are selling, I hate it when breeders brags about all the champions they have in their line, yet does not allow the pubic to see their pedigrees, I do not trust people who talk about how great their dogs are, but do not show the pedigree to prove it!!!! When buying a puppy, the pedigree is the most important part of that puppy, especially if you are looking for a puppy for a breeding program! Or more important to show, you don't always want to talk to the breeder, as you want to compare other lines and pedigrees to see that they will fit with yours. It is also important in the pricing of the puppy!!! These puppies have big price tags, but nothing on the site to back them up! All yorkies puppies are pretty dang cute, especially when they are under 3 mos. old, I don't even consider letting one of my puppies go till they are at least 4 to 6 mos. old,sometimes 9 mos. for the tiny's and show quality!! and then I know what they are truley going to look like and have a better idea on how to price them. They sometimes do not go on my site till they are 5 or 6 mos. than people really know what they are getting, and I am proud of my babies, they have a big price tag, and they have the paper work right there to back them up!!! I do not breed Dams or Sires with bad knees, bites, ear sets, top lines,or any other kind of problem that could come up, that is why we study pedigrees!!!!! When people talk about all the champions they have but do not produce pedigrees, I feel they are just big talkers, and like to brag, but don't even want the public to know who the parents are of their puppies they are advertising, and would never post a pedigree. Stay away from these breeders, they have something to hide! Otherwise why not let you at least know who the puppies are out of. Maybe they do not have the proper papers, and are afraid their paper work will be checked out by AKC!!! These are the people AKC needs to start with.

I have LBV dogs and I truley love them and are proud to advertise they are LBV and show the pedigrees of these dogs to prove who they are and where they came from. I also show pictures of the parents, it is a big help when people are trying to make a decission on a puppy with a big price tag!I am in the process of updating my web site and want to make sure i Have all my pedigrees posted, so people know what they are getting before they make a dicission just to buy a cute little puppy! The pedigree is where it is in breeding, it is the most important part of the puppy and where it came from, and what you can expect it to be like. You also do not mind paying the price for a puppy with a good pedigree, even to pet homes, people like to know why their are paying the price! The pedigree is EVERYTHING, I feel so bad for the mix up of Harleymans paper work, it leaves a real bad taste in my mouth for a breeder who would broker their puppies out, knowing you bred the puppy you are responsible, for selling that puppy with the proper paper work, you don't trust anyone with your babies, it is your hard work that produced them and anyone that would take it so lightly that the paper work got messed up and do not want take any credit for it and pass the blame to anyone but themselves, are very irresponsible breeders, God help us and pray that this is not common, and that most breeders make sure the right puppy goes with the right paper work, that is why we have DNA if you question where your baby came from. You had better believe i will be doing DNA on all my dogs that i have bought from outside my own personal raised babies to make sure this does not happen to me or any one that purchases one of my puppies. I am so sick of breeders that say they are selling you a show quality puppy that you fall in love with, and has so many problems, like underbites, laxcating petells, collapsed TRACHEA, that you would never breed, and have the additional expense of trying to fix these problems, and YOUR HEART BREAKS FOR THESE POOR, POOR BABIES THAT DID NOT ASK TO COME INTO THIS WORLD, AND A IRRESPONSIBLE BREEDER DID THIS WELL KNOWING THAT THE PUPPY WOULD HAVE PROBLEMS AND COULD CARE LESS, TO THEM, IT IS ALL ABOUT MASS PRODUCTION AND THE DOLLAR, TO ME THESE BREEDERS ARE NOTHING BUT PUPPY MILLS AND NEED TO BE PUT OUT OF BUSINESS! Sometimeswe lose these babies at a young age because of a irresponsible breeder!!!!!!! Your heart breaks for the puppy and breaks because of the loss, who would ever want to put a puppy out there that they well know will have knee problems, as the parents had them, they are people Who are out there only to put a wad of money in their pocket at the puppy's expense!!!!! God help these people to make better judgements.

I guess by now you have guessed how upset this all makes me and my heart truley goes out to all the people involved in this screw up!!!!

10-23-2006, 09:22 AM	#60
Donna Jean YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 616	Pedigree mix up's I now know why some breeders do not use pedigree's on her web site and does not let you know who the parents are of the puppies they are selling, I hate it when breeders brags about all the champions they have in their line, yet does not allow the pubic to see their pedigrees, I do not trust people who talk about how great their dogs are, but do not show the pedigree to prove it!!!! When buying a puppy, the pedigree is the most important part of that puppy, especially if you are looking for a puppy for a breeding program! Or more important to show, you don't always want to talk to the breeder, as you want to compare other lines and pedigrees to see that they will fit with yours. It is also important in the pricing of the puppy!!! These puppies have big price tags, but nothing on the site to back them up! All yorkies puppies are pretty dang cute, especially when they are under 3 mos. old, I don't even consider letting one of my puppies go till they are at least 4 to 6 mos. old,sometimes 9 mos. for the tiny's and show quality!! and then I know what they are truley going to look like and have a better idea on how to price them. They sometimes do not go on my site till they are 5 or 6 mos. than people really know what they are getting, and I am proud of my babies, they have a big price tag, and they have the paper work right there to back them up!!! I do not breed Dams or Sires with bad knees, bites, ear sets, top lines,or any other kind of problem that could come up, that is why we study pedigrees!!!!! When people talk about all the champions they have but do not produce pedigrees, I feel they are just big talkers, and like to brag, but don't even want the public to know who the parents are of their puppies they are advertising, and would never post a pedigree. Stay away from these breeders, they have something to hide! Otherwise why not let you at least know who the puppies are out of. Maybe they do not have the proper papers, and are afraid their paper work will be checked out by AKC!!! These are the people AKC needs to start with. I have LBV dogs and I truley love them and are proud to advertise they are LBV and show the pedigrees of these dogs to prove who they are and where they came from. I also show pictures of the parents, it is a big help when people are trying to make a decission on a puppy with a big price tag!I am in the process of updating my web site and want to make sure i Have all my pedigrees posted, so people know what they are getting before they make a dicission just to buy a cute little puppy! The pedigree is where it is in breeding, it is the most important part of the puppy and where it came from, and what you can expect it to be like. You also do not mind paying the price for a puppy with a good pedigree, even to pet homes, people like to know why their are paying the price! The pedigree is EVERYTHING, I feel so bad for the mix up of Harleymans paper work, it leaves a real bad taste in my mouth for a breeder who would broker their puppies out, knowing you bred the puppy you are responsible, for selling that puppy with the proper paper work, you don't trust anyone with your babies, it is your hard work that produced them and anyone that would take it so lightly that the paper work got messed up and do not want take any credit for it and pass the blame to anyone but themselves, are very irresponsible breeders, God help us and pray that this is not common, and that most breeders make sure the right puppy goes with the right paper work, that is why we have DNA if you question where your baby came from. You had better believe i will be doing DNA on all my dogs that i have bought from outside my own personal raised babies to make sure this does not happen to me or any one that purchases one of my puppies. I am so sick of breeders that say they are selling you a show quality puppy that you fall in love with, and has so many problems, like underbites, laxcating petells, collapsed TRACHEA, that you would never breed, and have the additional expense of trying to fix these problems, and YOUR HEART BREAKS FOR THESE POOR, POOR BABIES THAT DID NOT ASK TO COME INTO THIS WORLD, AND A IRRESPONSIBLE BREEDER DID THIS WELL KNOWING THAT THE PUPPY WOULD HAVE PROBLEMS AND COULD CARE LESS, TO THEM, IT IS ALL ABOUT MASS PRODUCTION AND THE DOLLAR, TO ME THESE BREEDERS ARE NOTHING BUT PUPPY MILLS AND NEED TO BE PUT OUT OF BUSINESS! Sometimeswe lose these babies at a young age because of a irresponsible breeder!!!!!!! Your heart breaks for the puppy and breaks because of the loss, who would ever want to put a puppy out there that they well know will have knee problems, as the parents had them, they are people Who are out there only to put a wad of money in their pocket at the puppy's expense!!!!! God help these people to make better judgements. I guess by now you have guessed how upset this all makes me and my heart truley goes out to all the people involved in this screw up!!!!