It does take a lot of patience when first doing this. I know Venus wiggled every which way she could, with the first topknot a few days ago. I even tried the treats, but she wouldn't hold still enough, but I finally won
I started putting Adonis's hair up about a month ago. Seems everytime I try to redo it, he goes in the bathroom, and rolls on the rug to try to get it out, lol. I put it in tight enough so he couldn't get it out.
Someone made the remark to me, boys don't wear pony tails. I just ignored them. They aren't the ones that groom my dogs, I am!
I think (here I go thinking again) Adonis can see better with his hair out of his face!