WHEW! Ok, we have #2 here, a little girl, both weigh exactly 5oz, both are nursing well. Dori is a wonderful mama. There little tiny pointed ears are perfect. We have a ton of pics and video of the whole birth of both. Will post them later. Everyone is resting now, and I'm about to fall out, lol. I have been so nervous over this and hoping all ends healthy I know we still have to be on watch for the next few weeks. Just glad the whelping done. Thank-you everyone for your support! I love you all and have coached and supported us through this, and we have some beautiful healthy pups as a result!!! Yogi will send cigars