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					Originally Posted by Erin  These dogs - boxers, labs, etc. ALL went from pulling with all their might to walking on a loose leash on a collar with distractions by the end of the 8 week class.  No choke collars involved.  I do know how they were trained, I was in class with them. | 
 
  Thats the whole point, they were in class, Max isn't aggressive but when you walking on a street or in a crowd of people or around 30 to 50 different dogs that are not little dogs, you just have to make sure they are under control, I can let Max run off lease and he comes to me no problem, but when we are in public dogs act totally different, there are so many different distractions that you can't plan on and being only 4 1/2 months old he wouldn't hurt any one but I don't want him attacked because a dog that young attacked will become aggressive from fear. Lets put it this way when I am out with Lexie or Peanut, I expect other people to have there bigger dogs under control, I wouldn't want a dog jumping on my little dogs just because they are on a regular collar and pulling there owner, when you are being pulled and the dog has the lead, you don't have to much control of him...You take those dogs that are 8 weeks trained and put a live animal like a rabbit, cat or squirrel  in the yard and you can tell me that they will not try to chase them. and on a regular collar when they start to run or the owner jerks them back you are doing more damage to the throat then you will do with just on pull on a prong collar..Like I said now I don't even have to pull on Max's anymore he knows, but when we are in public place I will not take the chance, so I will always put his prong on, until we are completely done with the Schutzhund and he is titled..The biggest thing is respect..I respect Max so much not to let him get hurt by himself or other animals and he respects me to be his protector...