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					Originally Posted by Erin  | 
 
  
I believe that you have made it your personal mission to discredit Cesar Milan.  When a person becomes overly passionate, they loose their ability to be objective. 
Any training method can cause negative results if it is done incorrectly.  So other people using Cesar's methods with bad results, does not prove that Cesar's method are bad. Cesar himself gets good results without abuse or physical punishment.   
Touching a dog and saying   shhhhhhhht is by no means abusive.  The methods he uses for vicious dogs ar totally different.  When the dog bites the owner, or the trainer,  physical dominance is the only recourse.  That is common sense.  Most traing books do not address this issue. 
I have used his methods and they work for my dogs.  That is proof enough for me.  I have also used other methods that have worked well. 
I am curently reading a book written by Thomas Knott.  He does not believe in giving food as a reward.  He believes that praise and affection are the only rewards needed.  Since I have never been fond of bribing a child or an animal, I think I will find his training methods agreeable to my own beliefs.   
This, however does not mean that I think methods that reccomends food as a reward are ineffective. 
You are on a mission to discredit Cesar Milan, you said that yourself.  I believe his results are all the proof that he needs.   
I also believe there are other methods that are just as effective, for the well balanced dogs.  However, for an unbalanced dog, in an environment where the dog runs the house, no method is going to work.  This is the problem that Cesar specializes in, correcting the people. 
That is the only thing that Cesar claims.  He fixes the people, once that is done, any training method will work if done correctly, and will also produce negative results if done incorrectly.