[dezertblu]

We used an anti bark collar on our bigger dog, she is a border collie, which matters because thier neck is very thick and full of ruffly thick hair..they are a very hearty breed.We tried it on ourselves first, as we would not use anything on any of our pets we werent willing to try on us, the shock collar we got, had adjustable settings and was triggered by the vibrations caused by a bark, the shock emmited on the highest level is less than that from an electric fence, but slightly more than a 9 volt battery.I put ours on medium as low was so weak our dog didn't even feel it, and we felt high was a bit much.Medium had a good shock that wasnt painful or hurtful in any way, more a surprize factor the dog doesn't like.I know because as I said I tried it on myself, something the box says not to do, but I am not putting something on my dog I can't handle myself. The collar worked quite well within the first hour of having it we saw the change.We only had it on her while we were home, never while she was alone.The main problem I saw with this automatic system collar is that it would give shocks when she barked, but sometimes when she hadn't barked, such as in times of heavy panting ect.Her "husband" our other dog took care of the collar by chewing it off her and making sure it was well and truely destroyed......so we went to the water out an upper story window method, which seems to work.I don't find the medium setting cruel for the larger more hearty breeds.....I personally wouldn't use the collar even on low on a toy breed, as they are more sensative and fragile.