Thanks for that advice, though Moe was always trained on papers, and he was so very good about using them until he became a "man" so to speak...I think between the English winter and his maleness coming out he has had a few strikes against him in "getting it right" so I have been very patient and very understanding with him, he may just be going through terrible somethings though he isn't 2 yet.....he was only born August 18th of 2005 so he is going on 9months old....anyways Moe said to let twinkle know he thinks she is perty and she is welcome to visit his Dogster account at :
http://www.dogster.com/pet_page.php?i=249647