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Originally Posted by kjc  I know I look at numbers a lot and I am so very conscious that these numbers equal people, it’s very sad.
On the other hand I’m really not trusting the numbers because those numbers reflect only the cases that have actually been reported and the reporting protocols are different. So someone that happened to have coronavirus but died of a heart attack and they haven’t been able to determine if the coronavirus caused the heart attack or if they just had a heart attack would they have had it if they didn’t have the coronavirus and that kind of stuff. I really believe that the actual numbers are a lot higher all over. |
I heard that people that die while they have Covid19 are considered, rightly or wrongly, to have died from it. Heard doing that is like saying an elderly male with HBP & advanced cardiovascular disease who also has early stage prostate cancer died from prostate cancer, even though he suddenly developed a huge embolism in an already mostly occluded cardiac artery in a badly diseased heart causing part of the heart to malfunction severely enough to stop beating and pumping blood to the vital organs.
Unless a medical examiner/coroner does a post mortem, there is really no way to know if Covid19 or the cancer or another existing disease process actually led to the heart beating its last.
It seems to me that an early, mild case of Covid19 virus in the system isn't necessarily and always actually the immediate cause of a heart stoppage in an already very sick patient and attributing all deaths to it is likely the most opportune conclusion without a PM for every death.
We don't know if the advanced heart disease process, staff mistakes, poor medical management, an undiagnosed other infection/virus, blood thinners or other medications, etc. accidentally skipped, improperly ordered or over/under administered in the hours before that death; or what actually happened to cause that embolism or another issue eventually stopping the heart. But if that patient had been correctly or incorrectly diagnosed with Covid19, I'm lead to believe, that's listed as the cause of death by the medical provider. Maybe if he falls out of bed causing an open fracture of the skull with brain matter leakage just after his Covid19 admission, that would be listed differently but likely his admission for Covid19 would be listed as the cause of death.