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Old 02-15-2018, 03:12 PM   #87
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Here are some good links to vaccine info and an interview with Dr Schultz about vaccines.
https://healthypets.mercola.com/site...uidelines.aspx

https://healthypets.mercola.com/site...s-is-more.aspx

https://healthypets.mercola.com/site...too-often.aspx

I feel like I killed my own dog Tink because in hindsight I could have made better decisions in managing her health. I will share what I have learned.

1. All dogs are different.
Tink was a special needs dog with liver issues. Vaccines are processed/metabolized through the liver, so I was never sure if her body was producing antibodies from the vaccines. After discussing her situation in great detail with her vet, it was decided to only keep her current with her Rabies vaccine every three years. She had been given all her puppy shots, I may have given boosters when I adopted her as a 2 year old. I should have run titers on her at some point as that would have told me for sure if the vaccines worked, or not. I limited her exposure to other dogs in an effort to protect her.

2. Do blood work and get the results before getting vaccines.
Dogs can be ill without showing any signs. Vaccinating a sick dog doesn’t work because the sick dog’s antibodies will wipeout the vaccine before it has a chance to work, and it can make a dog more sick.

3. Vaccines, surgery, injuries, illness, and bug bites
All stimulate/challenge the immune system to produce antibodies. Too many concurrent challenges to the immune system can break it. It can go into overdrive and start attacking the dog’s own good cells, which will cause death. I always waited four weeks after a vaccine, surgery or illness/injury to schedule a surgery or another vaccine. A vaccine’s action on a dog peaks at 2 weeks, and should cease totally after 4 weeks.

Tink always appeared to handle her vaccines and surgeries well. But this last time was not good, as she needed her Rabies vac and surgery to remove a lump in her abdomen. This was too close together, her immune system went crazy and the end result is that she died. For the record, Tink was a 16 pound purebred Yorkie.

I hope and pray this doesn’t happen to anyone else’s dog. Please vaccinate wisely. My basic rule is to not vaccinate against diseases that can be successfully treated, and to use other methods when and where available and appropriate. Of course this depends on my lifestyle and what I choose to expose my dogs to.
Not a big fan of there’s. I’m sorry you feel you killed her but I’m sure you didn’t. 2 weeks between surgeries and vaccines is fine. There is no treatmeant for the dog flu but they can die and develop secondary infections that can also kill them so if you take your pets out and live in the area effected it is a good idea to get the dog flu shot. With bordatella sure it can be treated but it can take over a month to treat and multiple antibiotics which also can negatively effect their immune systems too. It can also cause secondary infections that can again cause great distress and even death. Lyme isn’t really curable either and can also be deadly. My vet does not give shots when they are sick and that’s why they do a wellness check up before giving shots. I differently think sick or sensative dogs definitely need different precautions or a different vaccine plan I think it’s not very common. I am a huge fan of vaccinations and get all available for me so as long as they are safe for my puppies I will do the same. Callie can not afford to get sick with her compromised immune system so she needs to be protected and can’t have her siblings bring anything home to her either. I’m just not willing to risk their life’s when they can be vaccinated for things that could kill them. Vaccines are safe and necessary with dogs who do not have issues with them and are generally healthy. It’s very difficult to “break” an immune system. I saw some of the cases of not vaccinating in my vet assistant classes and it’s scary.
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