[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

I thought this was an interesting article about a study done on dogs using shock collars. Might want to check it out https://positively.com/articles/ever...-collar-study/. I really like Victoria Stilwell.

It is interesting....no where does it say that controlled use of an e collar harms a dog. It also says that if you don't use them properly, that is when there are increased problems.

I don't advocate the use of them .. but, would not bash someone who used one in an extreme case. There are different circumstances and not all training methods work for all dogs. I personally could not use an e collar but I know people who have used them in extreme cases with great results....actually potentially saved the lives of their pets by stopping behaviors that other methods didn't help with. AFTER they got them to stop those behaviors they were able to work with them with positive training. I don't believe e collars should ever be used in place of other training methods which is what that study was....a comparison of different training methods.

The last few lines say it all:
This was a comparison study and is not what I have discussed above. No where in my posts did I suggest that the e collar should be used in place of other training methods.

This study also does not discuss safety issues which you have raised. You say it harms them but what I have read is that only happens when the collars are not used correctly.

The last few lines say it all:

"Accordingly, it seems that the routine use of e-collars even in accordance with best practice, as suggested by collar manufacturers, presents a risk to the well-being of pet dogs. The scale of this risk would be expected to be increased when practice falls outside of this ideal."