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Originally Posted by Gr33zyinc To be clear, I never stated any Facts. It is my opinions based on what I have read, thus I said "considering what I've learned". I also said I am no vet or nutirionist. I'm saying what I know, and I'm also here to learn. The biggest problem I've read about Raw is the possible bacteria, which if you freeze the meat for 3 days should not be a problem.
I did not know about the Therapy Dog thing. Can you tell me why that is exactly?
As far as how long they live, can a wild dog be compared to a domestic dog? Their living conditions are completely different. They don't get fed x amount x times a day like domestic dogs do?
^It's the same argument with people comparing high quality kibble vs low quality kibble. "My neighbours dog lived 17 years on Purina, so is a high end kibble really necessary?" -> Said someone I was talking to.
I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with Raw. That is also partially why I am on edge about switching my Yorkies food, regardless of what my other dogs may be eating.
Something I've noticed through different forums, is that large breed dog owners seem to be more pro-raw. I'm wondering if maybe smaller breeds don't take as well to it?
Again I'm not arguing, nor am I saying I am completely for or again a raw diet. I'm hear to share what I've learnt, and I am here to learn. |
I'm sorry, but you can't pass off information that you seem sure about as "opinions" when you are presenting them as facts.
Case in point: "
The biggest problem I've read about Raw is the possible bacteria, which if you freeze the meat for 3 days should not be a problem." You are presenting this as a fact. It is definitely NOT a fact. In fact, it's dangerous misinformation. Freezing meat for any length of time--long or short--does NOT sterilize it. Bacteria survive freezing! I'm concerned about people on Yorkietalk reading things like this and thinking that they are true when they are DANGEROUS falsehoods. The only way you are going to kill bacteria is by heating to high enough a temperature (cooking), or irradiation (which is not practical). And even then, if the bacteria have already produced toxins, the cooking is not going to destroy them. Let me ask you a question: If someone left an egg salad sandwich out in the sun for a day, would you eat it if someone froze it for three days? If you have meat in your refrigerator that has spoiled, do you put it in the freezer for three days and then eat it? No? I would hope not. In fact, they tell you not to refreeze meat that has been thawed for this very reason.
On another topic, you were the one who brought up dogs eating a raw diet "in the wild." I was just pointing out that dogs in the wild don't live very long. Among the many reasons are lack of vaccination to the many diseases that can be caught from other animals, exposure to the elements, AND diseases from bacteria and parasites that come from scavenging raw foods in the wild. An "argument from nature" regarding raw feeding is therefore invalid. There may be valid reasons (which don't outweigh the negatives, in my opinion), but "dogs in the wild eat raw foods" isn't one of them. I'm not at all a fan of Purina, but if a dog lives a long and healthy life of 17 years on Purina, I view that as a positive thing. Isn't a long and healthy life a positive outcome, and isn't that what we hope for our dogs?