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Old 05-07-2017, 06:26 PM   #22
FlyingNimbus
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 View Post
Every state should have laws banning dogs from being sold in stores unless it is a rescue. All dogs sold in pet stores do not come from good places. Most come from puppy mills and the ones that don't and come from breeders are not good breeders because good breeders want to meet who they are selling to and ask lots of questions and would not put a puppy in the situation of a pet store. Dog breeding will never be completely illegal but we have to do something about all the puppy mills and bad breeders out there.
I 100% agree with what you said that each state should effectively make it impossible to make dogs en masse via puppy mills and kept in gross conditions.. I really do, I don't think it should ever be allowed- for any reason.

However on a related note, I recall being told by other dog enthusiasts (not from this forum- and some offline people) have mentioned to me that this law that has been going on since last year-- they want to add an amendment to it to basically limit how many times a breeder can breed per year(like how many different individual dogs from the same breed) however it also extends to a maximum of 10 dogs being allowed to sell.

Which begs another question, while the rule seems more than sufficient for yorkies, chihuahuas, maltese, and other toy breeds which only produce 1-2 (and at most 5) pups per litter... but what about those larger breeds whom can produce in just one litter 7 at least in one litter- but it's not even limited to 7... if I recall the larger breeds can potentially carry up to 15 puppies! It makes me wonder- how rare is it for a dog to produce such a big litter?

My point is, why (if this is true) instead of just limiting per number of puppies-- why not make it more efficient and less restricting? Instead of just saying the amount of numbers of puppies-- why not just say instead a limit to the numbers of dog bred per year? At most, I'd say 2-3 separate litters. Depending on how many of that said breed decide to breed them. Here in NJ there are from what I checked no brussels griffon breeders. I mean there were-- but they retired. I went on to their site a month or two ago and found out. I contacted everyone on that list and everyone told me the same thing "We retired". While we should limit the amount of dogs being sent to shelters- we should still keep breeding "Somewhat" so that the lines don't get too limited in the genetic pool. IF everywhere in the world had that kind of restriction we wouldn't see that much dogs in shelters- but we would still keep the gene pool big enough to be replenished.... I dont understand genetics- but that much I do know.

Also, they should keep track on owners. If a person is adopting dogs and constantly returning them- do you really think they should be allowed to still adopt or purchase from a breeder? What I am saying is, if the person is picking up puppies, or even adults and they're eventually sick of the dog and later in a few months get another dog- only for the same thing to happen, and then a few months from then, they get another dog... (it's not that frequent but I wonder if it happens).

Or how about the people who get dogs and now when they're much older they dont want to keep them, and essentially trade them off for a new puppy (i.e. dropping him off in a shelter or in the streets, and then purchasing or adopting a new dog elsewhere).

Because I will be perfectly honest when I say this. From what my brother told me (he worked at this no-kill shelter) older dogs rarely get adopted and if they are in a kill shelter they end up being put down to make room for more...

Or what about those people who breed dogs and sell them off low key.
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