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Originally Posted by rjwalt  If you breed dogs at the top of the standard spectrum with each other, then over time, the resulting pups will naturally get bigger and bigger. Many breeders actually like for the female to be larger for more pups and easier births, they just mate them with a smaller male and the pups sort of end up on a spectrum.
Honestly, there is no valid reason for yorkies to be bred to be so small. Its sad to see dogs that are so tiny they can't really live and be dogs. In my opinion, if a dog's legs break from jumping off of a standard couch, they are too small. If anything, the standard needs to be shifted to include larger dogs to discourage folks from breeding these tiny, fragile, sickly animals that suffer in life. True, not all small dogs are sickly, some are rather sturdily built, but the reality is when you breed such small animals, so many moire things pose a threat to them.
The standards that people speak of are for aesthetics and vanity only but those are the rules for showing and competing, if you are not doing either one of those things, don't worry about it.
Also, "reputable" is a ridiculous term, that means nothing, but many people try to stuff whatever they want under the umbrella to be "right". It's just a word that was created by PETA and other radical animal rights organizations to shame people for breeding dogs and cats(in general) and narrowing the definition of a good breeder to cut into the domesticated animal birth rate by vilifying breeders. Their goal is to eradicate all domesticated animals as well as any animal that relies on human beings for anything. be careful who you align with if you love dogs and believe in pets! |
I mean I find small yorkies cute- but then again I find almost all dogs to be cute. I agree about not breeding for dogs that if they fall or jump off a standard couch and get hurt...
As for reputable... it seems to be a word that's tossed around a lot... I know we're talking about dogs-- but I used to own a reptile room (full of large enclosures for reptiles and amphibians) and I'd buy reptiles from reputable breeders, and by the time I'd get them they'd be sick, dead or died within the month.
With that, I followed everything that was said to me. The way reptiles are bought- they either ship it to you or you go to one of these reptile expos/conventions. Not everytime you get screwed over, but do you know how it feels to spend 100-600 dollars on a reptile and have it die the next day or on the way back to your house(in the expos), and you can't really ALWAYS tell if the animal is healthy or not because the illnesses that are really obvious are usually beyond help. The ones that don't appear easily can still kill them if they get stressed out even a little bit.
I've never had a problem with the frogs/toads I've bought (they typically were short lived -- about the same lifespan of a great dane for some, and some lasted for almost a decade, and others still alive with a friend-- I've moved several times and long drives for reptiles is stressful- you can ship a herp if its made so it arrives within 24 hours of shipping it out, kept warm (during cold season), and cooler during extreme heat situations(which is easy).
Anywho, that being aside, even for fish-- going to a reputable local mom and pop petstore can still be troublesome sometimes... even if its a reputable petstore-- which btw, the closest "reputable" pet store (which is not a chain- but a local shop) they keep cane toads, with friggin' skinks(cane toads are highly toxic- a drop of their toxins could easily kill 10 fully grown men). Their bufotoxins are within their large bean shaped warts(usually 2 behind the eyes-- sometimes 2 behind the eyes and 2 near the legs if I recall for the rococo toad), most toads are harmless but these ones should be kept by their own species. They've kept the toads in really poor conditions(too dry) with a heat lamp on top (toads actually are nocturnal- usually).
They've kept mice in very small quarters- with too many mice to begin with. Their other reptiles are usually sickly looking, and I bought a toad from there once out of pity (Big mistake) and it died within a few hours, as it hurled a big white blob which turned out to be a parasite load. They wouldn't accept responsibility either for it.
These are toads that are really resilient... so much that even in australia(where they are an invasive species as well) they kill them en masse... because they wreak havoc on the local ecosystem.. They virtually have no predator and are also known to eat dog and cat food- or virtually anything... even if it stands still(which is weird because amphibians in general rely mostly on movement to catch prey-- but these are opportunistic feeders). These toads could probably live in the sewers and still somehow survive(ok thats an exaggeration, but what I am saying is they're extremely sturdy, they eat like champs, etc so for them to die at the hands of a petshop is kind of saying something).
Before I knew any better- we would go to petstores and look at dogs. We always wanted to buy one of the dogs because they were so cute, and fluffy and playful. But somehow we never ended up ever buying a dog from a petstore. I guess it was our luck.
As for PETA, they are essentially extremist activists... They seem to also almost always include some inappropriate (mature) subject into their ads, etc... if you go on the PETA website and search through their mounds of entries, and ads, you will see what I mean...
They're so stupid they even try to mess with pokemon, by claiming it promotes animal cruelty. I didn't know a game where every creature has little resemblance to no an actual animal, or some resembling tools, or whatever... is supposedly animal cruelty. I mean it's completely fiction, if a child somehow gets into their head that they should torture animals from just playing or watching pokemon-- then there's something very wrong with the child in question and not so much as the game.
How did they mess with it? Well there was a PETA ad game of a poorly designed pokemon remake, I think it had pokemon and some other characters... and I am not sure if I am remembering correctly.. but the game has you play as the "animal" characters and to win the game you have to kill people. I mean, the game is essentially promoting actual violence, and I am not sure if they intended it for children to play it... but it's messed up because it's full of gore and just disgusting scenes.. (I had the "pleasure" of trying it out once out of boredom)
PETA is actually out of control, and they're probably the ones who got that law to ban petstores from selling dogs- which is fine... but on the other hand whose to say they wont try to extend that law to private breeders-- actually good breeders who don't try to breed a dog more than 1 a year if even? whose to say they wont try to make dog breeding in general illegal- thus effectively destroying domesticated dogs in the US? What then?
I think they should keep that law, but they shouldn't really be listened to that much...
They had an article that compared people who eat meat, to the nazis --- and they had two photos there, one with the jewish people in cages from the holocaust, and another of cows in their pens... I mean I love animals as much as the next guy- but first off we're omnivores and secondly we should all be given the option to eat animals or not without any sort of prejudice-- as long as the animals are treated with respect and given a quality of life until the very end I don't see that much of a problem. Wolves, lions, and any carnivore hunts/kills/eats animals.. and even omnivores like apes... there are apes that hunt....