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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom  If you're totally set on getting this Korean puppy and feel you have covered *every* single, solitary base you can to somehow get an idea as to the nature of this breeder, and then still feel it's the right decision in all aspects.....
....then, what I'd advise is that you hire a pet courier to pick up this tiny little, living, precious, vulnerable being; it's the right thing to do here. Shipping this pup via cargo is *NOT* a good decision for this little puppy in any way, shape, or form. Please, animal lover-to-animal lover, don't do that  . I feel like if you are willing to pay that much for an animal, then you should be willing to pay more to make that animal safe.
I would ask that breeder, via Skype, and without warning - to see the parents, or more of the facility, or whatever else you think would be valuable in any way.
As far as age - she could very well be about 8 wks if she is truly a tiny one.
Just please be careful, cognizant/aware, mindful of what you could be supporting, in the big picture of things. I really cannot say whether or not there are "ethical" breeders doing this kind of thing...? Most would say no, bc of what's being marketed here, as a...commodity. Every action has consequences we can't even see....but would maybe break you if you did. Ya know what I mean? Tread carefully.
I do think, though, that it's very possible to have a dog this size who is perfectly healthy, just smaller. Size does not define health. I do wish you and this puppy the best of luck!
I don't think that's necessarily true, but I could see where part of you might think that initially due to wider-spaced eyes like this. But the tiny ones (my Marcel included, who is 4.5lbs, but seems almost tinier for some reason...?) can look *exactly* like this as healthy puppies.
The clinical gal in you will like this stuff too - remember Jrsygal's (Elaine) "Jersey" - who had hydro, but looked just like any other yorkie, here.
Also, a Dx of hydro can't be done without the clinical signs (Clinical signs are similar to those of congenital hydrocephalus and include changes in behavior or training, circling, head pressing (a term used for pressing of the head up against a wall or other structure), listlessness, loss of vision, pacing, restlessness, and seizures. - from VCA Hospitals) -- and U/S, CT, MRI, and EEGs also can be done. |
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Originally Posted by cj125 You may not like what she's doing but she is NOT doing it in an "unethical manner" - lol! She came to a Yorkie forum looking for some helpful information - better that than running to the local backyard breeder - don't ya think?
There are no guarantee's in LIFE - much less breeding.
Breeders - on occasion - have tiny ones. But again, no one knows exactly when. If they do get a tiny one - they keep them a lot longer to make sure they're ok when they go to a new home.
Here's the link to the national Yorkie club. They list breeders by state.
Yorkshire Terrier Dog Breeders- Yorkie Puppies
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I do agree somewhat, small dogs are born, it's not 100% preventable and it doesn't make someone a bad person for taking that said dog off their hands knowing fully well that said dog may or may not have a higher chance of having severe health issues. I would applaud them for that.
If you were to say that said person only bought it from said reputable breeder because he/she just so happened to stumble upon it.
But my take on things is as follow, if you are personally insisting on very small dog and even offer to pay them an even greater amount that is basically more than enough reason for them to "accidentally" breed smaller dogs, as she said there are people out there purposely seeking them out and that apparently it's a craze in Korea.
Even though said craze would imply that the dog is more than likely literary just a fashion accessory and easily replaceable in their eyes... I have personally witnessed people with that mindset, I am sad to say I -had- a friend who had that mind set.
Though, I don't personally blame her because she is just trying to be accommodating to her boyfriend. However I do not condone lining up the pockets of people purposely breeding for smaller dogs. Yes it is possible that a small dog like that could be healthy as size is relative. Yorkshire terriers originally were much larger and bulkier than currently now and were thus bred down to size for accommodation or other trivial reasons...
My only problem is that lining up the pockets of said "breeders" could potentially make them and their friends a bit more "ambitious" to say it nicely(greed is the word I am looking for), and when someone is interested only in money they can and will cut corners where they shouldn't such as health testing the parents for genetic conditions/illness. They may not socialize them properly because now instead of breeding a few dogs, let's breed more dogs because more dogs means more money. However more dog also means less time to properly try to socialize them early on, less time to attempt to train them in the basics, and less time to personally inspect each puppy to see if they're all healthy.
Like I said on a previous post; just because something looks a certain way doesn't really mean it is that way. Should really be looking at the overall picture.
I personally want what people would call a designer breed, because I find the mystery somewhat fascinating, and to be honest I am not sure if you guys have ever seen certain dog breeds mixed with others and how amazing the outcome can be. One example being take the basset hound, beautiful dogs on their own, but very beautiful as well if mixed with other breeds such as a black lab, a golden retriever, or heck imagine a basset x maltese or basset x poodle, or basset x saint bernard.
However, like it was explained to me earlier on the likelihood of people breeding them with the pure intent of bettering the breed or making new breeds for actual interest in them asides "fun" or money is rather slim.
I personally checked out all of the mixed breeders in my state and every surrounding state and most of said breeders looked like either puppy mills or backyard breeders, with little to no care and if something happened to the dog they'd probably just shrug because the attitude received from reading their contracts, their information doesn't really sound all that favorable.
In short a small dog may not even be entirely a bad thing if they were carefully/responsibly bred and all, it's more of what it entails that fazes me.
Such as now said breeder will tell his friends of how much money he made from one person who desperately wanted it, and now he and his friends will make more efforts to pursue such things.
If it would only create more concious people who actually cared about what was under their care rather than treating them like pup money makers...