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Wylie's Mom · 09-30-2016, 02:42 AM

Hi Yvonne -

You're so welcome - I'm happy to help, especially bc I've been where you are, and know how overwhelming this all is

!

I wish there was some way you could get the Lysodren, if that's the med you prefer; I would get it for you if there was some way to do it, but I can't think of how we'd be able to get it

. But I've also heard very good results in dogs who use Vetoryl. Yes, you do keep Prednisone pills on hand, just in case (for some odd reason) the kiddo starts to show signs of too LOW cortisol as a result from their Cushings meds. I've never, ever had to do that. The vets are so cautious about increasing/titrating these Cushings meds, that it should be rare that you'd ever need the prednisone...but it's good to have it as a safety net.

The urine test is called the Cortisol-Creatinine Ratio Urine Test - this test is not diagnostic though. It's a first-line test you give if/when Cushings is just suspected; you then do this test. If the result is negative - then no Cushings likely, if positive - then you proceed to the more specific and diagnostic Cushings testing (ACTH Test), if borderline - the vet must look at the symptoms and assess whether or not proceeding with testing is warranted.

If the vets wants to tranq her, maybe they could just give a low dose of Acepromazine to calm her a bit - not a big deal at all.

Her own stress and natural fight-or-flight cortisol shouldn't be enough to actually alter the testing significantly...it should be okay in that way.

Wylie didn't become noticeably fearful w/ the Cushings, so no, I didn't see that. But their personalities can definitely change/alter w/ all that extra cortisol. You may also want to look in her eyes w/ a flashlight and be sure she doesn't have cataracts or anything bc I wonder if she is having any trouble seeing...and maybe that could be why she is spooked a bit...? I'm not sure on that one. Poor kiddo.

If you have any other questions, just ask!

Oh, and here are some of my fave links for Cushings:

Yahoo Cushings group that is FULL of exhaustive information (can be overwhelming): https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...mmuneCare/info

My favorite Cushings Overview: Cushings

U of Tennessee vet endocrine lab....if needed for further testing for Atypical Cushings etc: https://vetmed.tennessee.edu/vmc/dls...s/default.aspx

A great, supportive forum where you can read others' experiences, share your own, and ask anything: Canine Cushing's Information and Support Forums - Powered by vBulletin

Another no-reply forum that has a plethora of info in a nicely organized format: Important Information and Resources - Canine Cushing's Forums

09-30-2016, 02:42 AM	#6
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Hi Yvonne - You're so welcome - I'm happy to help, especially bc I've been where you are, and know how overwhelming this all is ! I wish there was some way you could get the Lysodren, if that's the med you prefer; I would get it for you if there was some way to do it, but I can't think of how we'd be able to get it . But I've also heard very good results in dogs who use Vetoryl. Yes, you do keep Prednisone pills on hand, just in case (for some odd reason) the kiddo starts to show signs of too LOW cortisol as a result from their Cushings meds. I've never, ever had to do that. The vets are so cautious about increasing/titrating these Cushings meds, that it should be rare that you'd ever need the prednisone...but it's good to have it as a safety net. The urine test is called the Cortisol-Creatinine Ratio Urine Test - this test is not diagnostic though. It's a first-line test you give if/when Cushings is just suspected; you then do this test. If the result is negative - then no Cushings likely, if positive - then you proceed to the more specific and diagnostic Cushings testing (ACTH Test), if borderline - the vet must look at the symptoms and assess whether or not proceeding with testing is warranted. If the vets wants to tranq her, maybe they could just give a low dose of Acepromazine to calm her a bit - not a big deal at all. Her own stress and natural fight-or-flight cortisol shouldn't be enough to actually alter the testing significantly...it should be okay in that way. Wylie didn't become noticeably fearful w/ the Cushings, so no, I didn't see that. But their personalities can definitely change/alter w/ all that extra cortisol. You may also want to look in her eyes w/ a flashlight and be sure she doesn't have cataracts or anything bc I wonder if she is having any trouble seeing...and maybe that could be why she is spooked a bit...? I'm not sure on that one. Poor kiddo. If you have any other questions, just ask! Oh, and here are some of my fave links for Cushings: Yahoo Cushings group that is FULL of exhaustive information (can be overwhelming): https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...mmuneCare/info My favorite Cushings Overview: Cushings U of Tennessee vet endocrine lab....if needed for further testing for Atypical Cushings etc: https://vetmed.tennessee.edu/vmc/dls...s/default.aspx A great, supportive forum where you can read others' experiences, share your own, and ask anything: Canine Cushing's Information and Support Forums - Powered by vBulletin Another no-reply forum that has a plethora of info in a nicely organized format: Important Information and Resources - Canine Cushing's Forums __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Last edited by Wylie's Mom; 09-30-2016 at 02:43 AM.