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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom  I honestly cannot figure out why this is hitting such a nerve with you / why you're taking this so very personally...?
I feel like replying to your purposely exaggerated comment about shelter dogs is only going to further inflame you, but I'll go ahead and reply since you put it out there.
Our shelter dogs are NOT crated - not even close. They have large kennels where they have an inside area AND an outside area. They can walk around, jump, sit, stand up on hinds, go inside, outside, lay down, play, eat, drink. Humans can go inside the kennel and stand up, sit with them, lay down, do training...whatever.
There is a HUGE difference btwn a kennel and tight confined spaces like a crate. I don't even really understand why you're trying to compare the two as being comparable to each other. They're not the same thing, not at all. That said, we do have shelter dogs who can't even tolerate our large kennels, they just cannot psychologically handle it...and for those dogs we find an alternative like fostering.
To sum up what I've said many times now: some dogs can tolerate crates, some cannot. In my book, it's not ethical to force an animal into tight confinement if they cannot handle it. That's really it. |
Would it surprise you to hear that I agree - if a dog as I said earlier despite your best efforts to train to a crate or a kennel truly can not handle then fine -another solution is to be found.
And I kind of used kennel/crate as similar terms - sloppy of me I guess. But if a dog whines for a few days being kenneled or crated for a couple of minutes - then what give up?
And yes obviously I am not letting go - because I think many folks think kenneling or crating is down right wrong and cruel. And that is the furthest thing from the truth for many dogs - again there are a few dogs that are not able for what ever the reason may be to come to accept their kennels or crates. I believe that the safety factor of having a dog trained to a crate is so very important that it is worth the effort to try to train a dog to a crate. In the same way that important basic obedience commands can help to save your dogs life! You say it is not the same thing - well I think it is.
Anyhow Ann thanks for replying you did not inflame me in anyway.