[Opium88]

I wasted $800 on Toby last year for training. It slightly worked but he just kind of shook it off even though I was consistant and did everything I was supposed to. But then I found out that she kept them in a kennel most time and the only food they got was what they earned in the three hours they were out of the kennel training. Well, I refuse to kennel Toby all the time, or starve him so he'll work for food. So he won. and he gets his 2 min of spazzing out. The only thing I've found that really works is a training collar that uses vibration NOT SHOCK. That works if I keep it charged and don't lose the remote.