[dawn27]

I am all for cage training, its how I trained all four of my Yorkies and with that there should never be a potty pad in the cage with them it really defeats the whole purpose but with the an x-pen its different since the sleeping area and potty area are totally separate from one another and the pup doesn't get confused.

Yes, those tell tell signs are hard to notice. The rule of thumb is that within 5-10 mins from the time the pups eats or drinks they will go potty. So it is important for you to monitor eating and drinking habits so that you can get them right outdoors or into the x-pen to use the pad. With puppies there are 3 noticeable signs 1. they will start to pace 2. will walk with their bottoms lowered to the ground and 3. with their noses to the ground in search for the perfect spot. Which is why I choose to paper train my pups. With papers you can transfer the bottom cleaner layer but still has their pee scent to the top of an new clean stack. Puppies will go anywhere but you will soon notice that they will also frequent the same area. The reason being is that they smell their own scent and will go in that same spot over and over again. You can read more about this on my web site.