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Originally Posted by lisaly

This thread has bothered me after the first post. I feel very badly that the owner and the puppy who broke its leg after the first day had to go through that. I wish things could be worked out amicably between the two of them by having an honest exchange between the two.

What I have seen on this thread is a lack of respect. We don't know any of the facts, and it always bothers me that without any apparent proofs, breeders are being regarded as disreputable based upon the opinions of some. I agree with Brit that breeders are not highly regarded by many on this site. I am fully aware that there are many disreputable breeders, but to paint a broad stroke against all breeders is strictly unfair.

I'm sorry Taylor that you got Callie from a broker and that she has had so many problems. I appreciate that you advocate for pups, but there are people with feelings who are hurt when your opinions are being posed as fact. It doesn't matter if you say "in my opinion". You gather together information that you dislike on a website and use that to say they are disreputable. Without truly knowing someone or their breeding program, you tout your opinions as fact. I know you're not the only one to call breeders disreputable, but you don't seem to let go and it's all so black and white to you.

Your apology to Gemy was not an apology at all. If someone has earned my respect, yes I do believe them at their word. Actually, I believe someone until I find they are being untruthful. A true apology would be to say, "I'm sorry I implied that" ot something like that. Instead you implied that she was in the wrong, and yet again, you drove your point home. You were disrespectful to her and also the breeder (on more than one occasion), firstly calling her "dear." That does not soften the attack and is very sarcastic.

I know you wouldn't want to hurt anyone, but constantly calling people disreputable without knowing for sure that they are, really is hurtful. I don't want to hurt you either, but this thread has upset me from the beginning. My opinion isn't more valid than anyone else's, but perhaps if I'm feeling this way, there may be others who are also feeling such a lack of respect here. There may be many reasons why people leave Yorkietalk, and although this is only just one reason, I wish people could be kinder and treat others with more respect.

I never say my opinion is a fact but there were a few facts about this breeder. Her ads selling a different breed puppy were facts they where there for everyone to see and it's a fact the pups were being sold at 8 weeks and it's there for everyone to see. A non reputable in my opinion from talking to reputable breeders, people who know this breed and study's on puppies as well as all the articles I have read say a small breed puppy should stay with there mom until 12 weeks. Almost all of the posters who have been here and even Ann the moderator has been seen saying pups should stay with there moms until 12 weeks. In my opinion if you do one thing wrong as a breeder you probably do something else wrong as well. I'm not going to respect someone I feel does things wrong like what I think is a bad breeder. You can not say my words are sarcastic because you can not hear them it is simply your interpretation. It has been said here many times a poster does not make another poster leave they choose to do it. Something my therapist repeats to me often surprisingly when we are talking about YorkieTalk no one can make anyone do anything. So it wasn't rude or nasty for Gemy to take a hit at me being a bad pet owner when I sure as heck have done more for my dog and gone into debt for my dog more then most would do. She knows that because of how much I love my Callie just how big and bad that would hit. In the real world people lie threw there teeth and my naive believe everyone has gotten me into massive trouble before so I have learned you can't take everyone for what they say especially when one we are on a message board and when I have multiple people telling me they think the same thing. It was not meant to be an attack on Gemy you can choose to believe me or not but it wasn't and I apologized that she felt it was because I am sorry that she thought I was doing that. It gets tiring when people take every single word you have to say and find a deferent meaning then what you really meant. The breeder could still come back and explain and if I feel I'm wrong I would apologize, I have done it before but I'm guessing there is no explain action that it is what it is. I have been told to always remember to write in my opinion yet that is still not good enough. So what is it you people want? Me to not be me? Me to lie? Me to only post positive stuff with rainbows and sunshine even though nothing is like that? Maybe that is why people decided to leave........