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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1  Some people just wanted to read the definitions, the combinations, etc,.They really didnt want her to try to explane to people that were not really interested in feeding RC in the first place, try to justify where RC bought chicken feet. In YOUR opinion, you dont like RC because of the ingredients list organization,....perhaps there are those of us that depend and appreciate evidenced based outcomes....that means if the dog loves the product, eats the product, and THRIVES on the produce, and is HEALTHY on the product, why not just leave the post and let people that were interested in learning from HER, people that are using RC, people that like RC, and people seeing the excellent results as evidenced in their dogs that are eating RC, let them learn from her answers.
You have "studied nutrition",..... she is indeed a bonifide nutritionist, a real live educated, graduated, degreed and licensed nutritionist......now you may feel she was misleading, you may feel she was deceptive, but many people did not. You feel they are using much poorer products in their food and you will not see it any other way....it does not fit YOUR specifications for what defines a premium product, so stop feeding it, tell what you think in a post, and let it go. Skip her posts. Dont recommend RC any longer....but remember she was not here to sell her dog food!!!! She was here to answer questions about nutrition, not explane why RC is an excellent product that is scientifically formulated, evidenced based on clinical trials, including input from breeders all over the world that have used this product well in excess of 25 years. Those breeders may just know a little about the quality of the product. Ginning up arguments with her over the cost of chicken feet from Asia, price points for RC on chicken meal, chicken by products, chicken by products meal, vitamins, etc....In YOUR opinion, it is no longer "a premium quality" food....great....dont feed it to your dogs. The quality control/quality management of that company is second to none in the dog food business.....there are millions of us that DO consider it a quality food, a premium food because it WORKS...it is excellent for our dogs and it is proven to be excellent for our dogs. Why continually beat this woman over the head with your opinion. You stated your opinion, again and again and again, and challenged every answer she tried to give. She was NOT here to sell RC to people, she was just trying to answer nutriution questions. Continually, the posts were re-directed back to what people thought about RC....
There are people on here that wanted to just have questions answered about palatability, proteins, alternate protein sources, fillers and grains and how they work in our pets digestive tracts, amino acids, immune system builders, etc.....and she was badgered about Chinese chicken feet and RC did this, RC did that, RC is owned by Mars company, so any change HAD to be because the parent company really couldnt afford the quality product...it always went right back to RC.....she was not here to defend RC, she was not here to sell RC, she was not here to persuade people that were not interested in RC to become fans of RC........that truth was lost. Sad. |
Do you think all dog foods are equal? They all end up meeting the AFFCO nutrient requirements? There are several ways to select a good food and one is to look to the ingredient panel, and learn the differences between ingredients.
Here's one independent source. Here's her credentials:
Sabine Contreras.
At school in Germany she attended Biology and Chemistry classes for 8 and 6 consecutive years respectively and during her 2 1/2 year professional apprenticeship, nutrition/dietetics was part of the accompanying education, and the final written and oral exams by the state of Baden-Württemberg.
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After completing coursework in Animal Nutrition, Care, Physiology, Diseases and Parasitology, Sabine earned her certification in Animal Care from the University of Guelph, Ontario, Canada [/q]
Her site helps the average person without training in nutrition learn how to pick out a good dog food, she doesn't do recommendations, she tell you about ingredients.
Look what she says about
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Brewers Rice
Also appears in ingredient lists as ground Brewers Rice.
AAFCO: The small milled fragments of rice kernels that have been separated from the larger kernels of milled rice.
A processed rice product that is missing many of the nutrients contained in whole ground rice and brown rice.
Contrary to what many pet food companies want to make you believe, this is not a high quality ingredient, just much cheaper than whole grain rice.
Chicken Byproduct Meal
AAFCO: Consists of the dry, ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines -- exclusive of feathers except in such amounts as might occur unavoidably in good processing practices.
Chicken byproducts are much less expensive and
less digestible than the chicken muscle meat. The ingredients of each batch can vary drastically in ingredients (heads, feet, bones etc.) as well as quality,
thus the nutritional value is also not consistent. Don't forget that byproducts consist of any parts of the animal OTHER than meat. If there is any use for any part of the animal that brings more profit than selling it as "byproduct", rest assured it will appear in such a product rather than in the "byproduct" dumpster.
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This page has so much good information on identifying a better product.
The Dog Food Project - Identifying better products
I'm not saying that you should never listen to the manufacturer, I'm saying that we should get independent information as well, to see if the manufacturer is telling you the full story.
Here's another great page on protein, and how at one time they thought too much protein was harmful, it wasn't the fact that they were using too much protein it was the fact that they were using poor quality protein.
The Dog Food Project - Is too much protein harmful?
I feel like some of you think a dog food would be fine if we use saw dust dust , hair, and sugar and a handful of vitamins. It has all the essential elements protein, carbs and vitamins and minerals as well as fiber. Throwing in vitamins instead of using nutritious foods in the first place is not in the best long term interest of our dogs.
I urge any of you who really want to learn about nutrition, and how to select good a dog food, to visit her site, she not selling any dog food. The Dog Food Advisor can also give you useful information about the individual ingredients in your food.
Dog Food Advisor