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Originally Posted by BobbiB  Wow, what an extremely skewed and narrow view of Pit Bull owners. I honestly have no reply to this except for findinga reputable breeder is rule number one to finding any purebred dog, just like you people spout off like a script here. There are places to get pit bulls that are bred from lines that have kept with breed standard, which is NO human aggression. Many, many pit bull owners are very day people with jobs and children and have no alterior motive for owning one (drugs, money, status, really? quite insulting) other than liking breed characteristics. Truth be told, as a previous long-time pit owner, my Biewer has many of the same traits as my well-bred pits did. It is one of the reasons I stuck with a terrier breed when I decided to get a small dog. Loyalty and tenacity are a HUGE part of any terrier breed.
After I read this, it seemed harsher than I realized. I'm just saying that it seems you only hit on the "bad dogs" of the group, and that can be frustrating for those of us who advocate for this breed. These dogs have many talents and skills, are loyal. It does suck that they fall into the wrong hands. When they fall into the right hands though...therapy, police work, drug dogs, agility, weight pulling, and they even have programs using pits to help rehabilitate felons. My fear is that this wonderful breed is going to eventually snuffed out due to ignorance and stereotype. |
No, no. If you'll re-read my words, you will see I'm referring only to dog-fighting owners and those who own pitbulls for the power and scare-factor they represent only or who cannot manage their dog's spirit or power - they are the bad apples who have ruined a segment of this breed and as a whole, its overall reputation - which is not my fault or the world's. And it's surely not my ignorance of the fighting dogs or bully breeds speaking - I've done years of research into the heinous abuse of this type dog. I'll match my research into the subject with anyone's, including researching the European and Central-European wings/clans and American/European gang involvement in this sick world. Those lifestyles of those dogs is truly sickening! They live in hell. And if you had read them, I further acknowledged in my recent posts that when bred for gentleness and mellow attitude, this type dog can be a lovely pet - as can even a fighting dog and its line when living with a strong, gentle leader who has undertaken to rehabilitate the dog. You totally misunderstood some my posts, it seems.
Some can rail against people like me who point the fingers at those at fault if they want for stereotyping but I say keep pointing to the dog-owners who exploit the bully-type dogs - not just pitties - but all of the dogs with "bull" in the name or cross-breeds of same - those who have essentially created a monster that most will have to agree, is largely feared by the world in some way or another these days when we all keep reading and hearing stories of bulldogs, pitbulls and bullmastifs or any derivatives of them - and sadly, any dog that favors them, attacking humans, our children or our pets.
I believe that too many of the owners of bully-type dogs don't have very good control of their bully-type dogs or we wouldn't have as many reports of bully attacks, maimings and deaths as we have. Did I say "all" are? No! Of course not! I said too many are - and apparently enough to raise the dogs' profiles of fear to that of the frightening.
And the reports we hear are not just of a simple bite from the bully-type dogs. No, they involved a sustained, ongoing onslaught by the dog of considerable time on his victim that usually results in sickeningly multiple bites, maimings or death of the victim. We hear of far more reports of this type of sustained aggression related to bully-type dogs, in my opinion and once more for the record, because of the element of pit-fighting dog genes in puppies of those dogs getting into the public domain as "pets" and too many bully-type dog-owners being irresponsible owners, apparently unable to control their large, powerful dogs.
If you don't believe they make up the largest group of unmanageable dog breed types abandoned or surrendered to the local pounds and rescues, call you local animal shelters/rescues and find out which type breed they house and kill the most. The bully breeds!
Did I say this bully-type breed was a dangerous breed? No, I said that a fighting dog in the hands of his pit-fighting-involved owner is a dangerous tool and believe you me - they truly are dangerous animals if you've ever seen one of them when aroused to attack and I have. It's blood-chilling. And dogs with pit-fighting genes in the DNA can be dangerous in the hands of weak, uninvolved owners. But I also acknowledged more than once that there are others who are wonderful dogs and make great pets. Just re-read all of my posts and get the whole picture - not just part of it. It's clear you love this breed or bully-type of dog and I do, too. I love the breed and bully type and have loved a wonderful if dangerous pitbull, as it was child-aggressive but so sweet and otherwise totally gentle and loving.
But I am sick and tired of people buying them for a "power trip", to improve their own status in their neighborhood or friends' eyes, exploiting them for their power and fear-factor and allowing them to scare people of the entire breed.
Still, the outcry from people the world over for these horrible attacks to stop is sufficient that some have (as others are thinking of it) legislated this wonderful breed from their state or county or country! Made the entire bully-type dog illegal to own or house! Though, really, only sending the owners of out-of-control dogs who damage or kill the innocent to jail - real jail with several years of real time and with no "get out-of-jail"-early card - will ever stop them from happily continuing to ruin the wonderful bully-type dogs in the minds of the world.