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Originally Posted by GigiRascal  My point was that not a single person actually answered her questions. She didn't ask if everyone thought she should do it. She asked for specific things: "how to pursue a good stud, reasonable fees, correct protocols and care?".
I also never said that "breeding is fluff". I simply pointed out that if someone truly wanted the questions answered that she asked, she'd get more answers asking vets rather than on a public forum because everyone just jumps in with "don't do it" (as many posted above). I said to "Stick to the "fluff" posts about clothing and potty training." because THOSE are fluff, not breeding.
I've read tons and tons of these posts where someone asks a question about breeding and everyone jumps on them. I didn't say everyone was rude, just that no one is actually going to answer the questions. They never do. She IS doing her research. She came to a place where, it is assumed, that people who *are* knowledgeable about the breed would be able to help point newcomers in the right direction.
We all know that if someone wants to breed their dog, they are going to do it regardless of what anyone says. So wouldn't it be a lot more beneficial for everyone if the "DON'T DO IT" posts were not so judgmental?
Offer the actual answers to the questions. Sure, don't withhold the very real possibility of a bad outcome, just like ANY pregnancy/birth. 24hrs later and not a single person, who would actually know the answers (or an estimate) has given it.
I've been a member here for a while and made it a priority to read as much as I could before posting (everything my "newbie" membership allows). Not jumping in naive to the community or asking things that have been asked a million times, and the very real trend, is that if you want to breed, do not mention it here. Newbies in the field are clearly not wanted. It is assumed that anyone who hasn't been doing it for years is incapable of doing so. "You" claim that the breed standards are ruined and too many in shelters, yet the very real help that could be given to avoid those things is not given. There is a deep line in the sand when it comes to breeding and it's really a shame. People come here for the "community" but there isn't a warm and fuzzy atmosphere. It's very sad. |
It is very sad that easily 90% of the people that come for advice on breeding, are PET owners, and are not referencing breeding quality breeding stock with pedigrees that have been extensively tested and proven not to be carriers of devastating genetic abnormalities, which will carelessly be passed onto offspring.
"DO NOT BREED YOUR PET" is indeed the help that is given to "avoid ruining the breed standard". If someone comes to me and asks how to build a bomb, I do not feel obligated by ethics or morality, to assume they will build it regardless, so I will go ahead and give feedback on how to do it. That kind of makes me responsible for whatever the outcome is. It is all about the dogs for me. If someone comes and it is evident that they have invested considerable time and money into the "book learning" aspect of learning about breeding, and they have attended shows and networked with professionals, and they have invested considerable money constructing a solid structure for their breeding program, with proven lines and pedigrees that justify continuing to breed them into the future....these are serious people with a passion for the breed, that are sincerely making the emotional and financial effort to do what is best for the dogs, and I have and will continue to educate and work with these individuals. This all takes a couple of years, at the very least. I can assure you, you will associate with people that will not coddle and pat and hug on you.....you will be educated and taught and guided and directed by people whose primary concern is all about the dogs, the BREED, not you and your feelings. You will be brought into the "circle" by fire and brimstone, just like with ANY professional organization. Dont think this forum is automatically against people wanting to breed. This is NOT the place to learn how to become an ethical, responsible breeder, any more than you can learn how to be a vet or a teacher or a lawyer by coming here. Lastly but most importantly, there ACTUALLY have been people that have read and learned from posts, even though the message was not "warm and fuzzy" and may not have been expected or appreciated....contrary to what you said, not everyone will forge ahead and breed regardless of what is said....some do learn and see the light and do not continue down that slippery slope.