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Old 11-11-2013, 12:47 PM   #123
impish
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Brice, glad the puppies are doing okay. I have to disagree with your update. Going back through the thread there were plenty of people who offered you support and advice. Some of it wasn't the way you wanted it, but it was in an attempt to try and help.

Further, yes there is a lot of bickering on this board and while there are people that I think can go a little extreme and accusatory - it's the way it is in any community. The bottom line is YOU did get advice and thank god you followed it.

I for one found this thread very helpful and the emails from your doctor enlightening and I think it adds another piece of information to the "record" of threads.

Now you know: Your yorkie is really almost on the too small side to breed; you can't depend on diapers for contraception; larger males with smaller females can be a problem; when breeding you should be in charge at all times; it's expensive not to know when the tie happened etc. etc. etc.etc.

Last I wanted to address one more thing. Your post in a public forum is not just for YOU. It's about the whole community. The price of entry is open dialog. You're going to get professional breeders responding, nonbreeding dog owners responding, nondog owners responding, antagonists, helpfuls, people who donate a TON of their life towards shelters and dogs that a product of irresponsible breeding.

And all we have to judge is by our experience and a few words on the screen.

Example. In one of your first posts you said: - We don't know the exact date of conception.. only within a week. Then you said: - Bottom line is yes, it WAS an accident - we kept them separated to the best of our ability, and made sure she had a diaper on at all times to prevent something like this from happening, but during the night she somehow managed to wiggle out of her diaper, and got pregnant.

The person in me trying to validate if your words are true could take those two statements and ask a ton more... eg. was it just one night out of the diaper? well then you would know when the tie took place... but AH if it wasn't and it was multiple times then it starts to sound fishy and then I have to tailor my response... and then I have to think why was the male intact still? etc. etc. Now this is just an example I don't need answers or care.

My point is that I wish out of all of this I would be hearing from you a little more focus on maybe what you've learned and less on schooling everyone for their behavior, particularly when you were the one with the accident.

I for one will love to see the puppies and hope you don't intend to breed again. If you do - please get a mentor and do dna testing, etc. etc.

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