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Originally Posted by Erin The problem is that holding a dog to the ground until it stops struggling IS using physical force. This is not a "positive" training method in the eyes of "positive" trainers. There are TWO demonstrations on the website of this technique. So, in this case, we are never all going to agree. |
Got to second that it stops learning.
Alpha rolls are wrong full stop wrong.
Shuts learning down all the way. Makes the dog work out of fear and well that is bad for a fear based aggressive dog.
Got one here sad to say I tried it.
Have you ever watch a dogs eyes go dead.
I have done a whole bunch wrong training this girl.
If it out there most likely execpt for the shoke collar it been done to this girl.
She alive and she happy cause I watch her quite, I saw with my own eyes her not wanting to be her. Not with me not anyone.
Her mind broke so bad and I did it, me.
I got the privlage of seeing again after the pit bull tossed her to the ground in November and then she went after a guy. Gone not there in her head.
That hurt goes deep in both of us.
That she trust me now is her will to live and my will to make it right.
When I speak and when I post it is bad it because I have been there.
I am not proud to say I did it not one bit.
I own it and we are moving pasted it.
But I hurt me furkid, my wee girl cause someone told me it was rigth.
It not and nerve will be. Just because a dog might have a stronger mind and body to cope with the asult ( alpha roLL) does not make it right.
Never ever again will I put her in harms way.
Joy