One more heart felt thank you,its about time the truth comes out,and its not even first timers that run into problems..but there is one bit of info outdated,thats the cost of a csection,we had one with no complications in nov and the cost was over $1,000.00,had one healthy puppy,mom is fine,yet if I had sold that puppy for what I had into it,time off work,shots,formula,and all of the extras,4 vet visits and so forth, he would have cost the new family $2950.00,but I had agreed ahead of time to $1,000.But he did go to the perfect forever home where he will be thier stud for there girls,yes a happy life for him,and a sad day for us,as he goes tonight after loving,spoiling,and not wanting to give him up,to his new home..yes there is alot more envolved to having puppies than meets the eye..keeping him for the 12 weeks makes you love him so much,yet he is going with all of the doggy parents love,training and complete devotation..don't know if we can do it again or not..