yes I knew definitely, I made it to the vet okay and I knew she was large enough inside to pass the puppy out, but we did lose the second pup, and I do believe it was because the vet waited too long because of how he looked. but all in all Mom did fine all through out. Her contraction had actually stopped about 11 last night and never really star back strong until we gave her a dose of oxytocin. Thanks guys for all of your concern.
