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whispersmom2 · 02-07-2006, 02:35 PM

Hi, it might be difficult for (and please take this next part as I mean it. Experience has taught me a lot and my mentor, Yorkie Rose, well, what can I say? She wrote the book!) a novice breeder to manage a virgin female, a novice male in a home that is not the stud's house. Having said that, Cruiser, my Biewer male, had a girlfriend all afternoon a week ago and could not get the job done. I let the bitch's mom take him to her home and approved an AI if needed. That was unsuccessful first time and was planned for a second time. I breed on the 11-13-15 day as a rule but that is not carved in stone. The vet had done a smear and said the female was in "early estrus" but I did an internal and did not agree. Apparently, Cruise-man didn't either. He did the deed on his own-just out of the blue on Wednesday and then again on Friday. So, he had a mind of his own. That female was a virgin but Cruiser has been bred 3 times..
I use lubricant for the male and I HOLD THEM THE INTIRE TIME OF THE TIE! I am not shouting but want to make sure the importance of not allowing the female to drag the male around and harm him..
Also, I have not found that flagging is a good indicator of when the female is ready. My females will flag at the drop of a hat!

02-07-2006, 02:35 PM	#10
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	Hi, it might be difficult for (and please take this next part as I mean it. Experience has taught me a lot and my mentor, Yorkie Rose, well, what can I say? She wrote the book!) a novice breeder to manage a virgin female, a novice male in a home that is not the stud's house. Having said that, Cruiser, my Biewer male, had a girlfriend all afternoon a week ago and could not get the job done. I let the bitch's mom take him to her home and approved an AI if needed. That was unsuccessful first time and was planned for a second time. I breed on the 11-13-15 day as a rule but that is not carved in stone. The vet had done a smear and said the female was in "early estrus" but I did an internal and did not agree. Apparently, Cruise-man didn't either. He did the deed on his own-just out of the blue on Wednesday and then again on Friday. So, he had a mind of his own. That female was a virgin but Cruiser has been bred 3 times.. I use lubricant for the male and I HOLD THEM THE INTIRE TIME OF THE TIE! I am not shouting but want to make sure the importance of not allowing the female to drag the male around and harm him.. Also, I have not found that flagging is a good indicator of when the female is ready. My females will flag at the drop of a hat!