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Old 03-29-2013, 05:43 PM   #3
yorkietalkjilly
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I don't even know if what you are asking is possible but I think you can help calm some of the wildness and frantic behavior but stop it entirely - probably not.

I think you are going to have to have a helper walk the other dogs while you stay in for a while and train them. Get their attention on a treat in your hand and put them in a down stay and give treats for calm behavior and staying down. Softly say "yesssss" as the dog just lies there but should he raise up, alert, say "uh oh" and put him down gently in place or use the leash to have him lie back down. Say stay, wait a bit and if he stays down for 5 seconds, say "yesssss" softly to mark(not happy to generate excitement) and for every 5 seconds the dog stays down, "yessss" and treat. Just sit and watch and mark good behavior with treats and raising up with "uh oh" and gently put him back into the lie down. In time, he should start to do that himself as soon as he sees your hands come toward him after the "uh oh". After about 8 - 10 minutes, treat the dogs to some safe chew toys or treat-filled kongs and should one of them bolt to the window and start to bark, get him, bring him back and tell him "down" and "stay" when he does lie down, then "yes" and treat. Every few seconds as long as he stays down, "yes" and treat. Raises up, "uh oh" and hands on gently back down, "yes" and treat.

Eventually, if you keep repeating this behavior, it should start to teach your dogs that when the others are out walking, if they will stay down and quiet, they get treats and then chew toys. It should help to get them over the hump of going crazy but I will tell you unless you are a very strong pack leader and in very excellent command of your dogs and an excellent dog trainer to boot, you will never have dogs that will quietly lie around while the others are out walking without a helper to get them quietly through this until they are much older.

After about two or three weeks of working with them this way and if they are mostly being good, staying quiet for 8 - 10 minutes and can get their chews and toys, have your walker stay in with the dogs and you go outside and walk one dog around for a few seconds. Come back in and do not look at the dogs, which the trainer should maintain in down/stays as you come in. Walk over and treat them with no words if they stay down and sit down beside them, calm and quiet. Treat some more. In a bit, go out and walk that dog around a bit and quickly come quietly back in and have the trainer keep them quiet, in down/stays as you do, walking over to quietly give each a treat for staying down and then you sit down with them again. Just keep repeating that and desensitizing them to your walking the dog for a short period and then you are back inside and treating them. Should in time start to help them slowly allow you to walk a dog while they remain down and quiet, rewarded if they are and placed back down if not.

Theoretically and after a good two months of this kind of shaping of their behavior, they should be much calmer and you can try walking two dogs for a minute or two and come back in quietly and matter-of-factly with the dogs, walk over and treat them if they are calm, "uh oh"-ing and placing them down if they are not. Repeat repeat repeat and they should start to see a pattern that if they stay down and quiet, you will come back in and give them treats. And in time, you switch and work on the other dogs staying down and calm as you walk the first set.

IDK if it will work all that well but it should start to give them some impulse control and reinforce quiet behavior while walking is taking place. I'd love to have a report and see how you are doing by May or June.

This is pack behavior and it is natural for them to feel left out of the pack walk and to raise a ruckus calling their pack members back. All you can do is hope to train them some to keep them from going wild and teach them some impulse control to get them past this point.
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