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fasteddie · 09-27-2004, 09:25 AM

Yikes! Time to keep the Yorkie at home and be very cautious around other dogs! Since this dog flu hits SMALL BREEDS! Sorry for the long posts, but this is important for us to know!

Here's some more information as well:
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UPDATE 9-26-04

We have been working VERY hard on this. Doctor Cash is near exhaustion, but we are building steam. We believe we have our tissue samples from animals that died immediately upon arriving at the clinic. We are taking them to OSU tomorrow. We are learning many things on our own, through other vets and a pathologist who is aware of this and is helping us. The public and email has been the MOST helpful. We cant thank you enough!! The lab told us to KEEP GOING!! DONT STOP NOW!! WE ARE GETTING THERE!! We have opted to turn down further press until we have our lab results. We are getting WAY too many suspect reports to stop now. This is something new in our area, and it is MEAN.

WHAT WE NEED:
Anyone who has lost a dog to these symptoms or had one treated with these symptoms-we need the animals age, breed, housing conditions, vaccine history, any diagnostic information, tests run, treatment regiments, results etc. We need location and contact information of the owner and or vet. We do not care if the animal was seen by a vet or not. You can remain annonomous if you wish. Please come forward. The diagnosis may be unknown or may be gastro enteritis, parvo or poisoning either by an unconfirmed toxin or possible food poisoning or other. We are trying to get a profile of the affected areas and numbers reported showing a potential outbreak of higher than normal cases showing these symptoms. We dont have to have the technical info, though it would be helpful, but whatever you know is fine. So far, we are definitely seeing something. There is no question to Doctor Cash, some vets who are working to help us, and the lab at OSU is now on board and backing us 100%. Cats are included in this. We have NOT YET examined a cat with this condition, but are hearing possible reports. We do not want panic, we need information to help the lab find the answers so we can identify and stop this.

We also need subjects to examine and treat so we can report results. If you have a vaccinated, healthy animal that died of these symptoms prior to medical treatment, Doctor Cash needs fresh tissue samples. It seems horrible, but we are asking for the sake of other animals that have a chance if we can only crack this. Please contact either one of us or have your vet send the tissue to the OSU lab. If you have unvaccinated young puppies dying of these symptoms, please let us know.

ALSO, Doctor Cash is paying for the lab work that goes out of her clinic. I gave her what I could. It is already expensive, but will surely climb as we are covering the costs for any new subjects to be tested, and providing the courier service to the Lab in Stillwater. If there is anyone who travels to OSU from Claremore on a regular basis, we could use some help to cut costs.

We are trying to save pets. We are working on behalf of the people who want to protect their pets. There is MUCH speculation that this is a hoax or we are looking at parvo. IT IS NOT A HOAX and yes, the way parvo works, we could be looking at a new strain. That is possible, but this strain is resistant to our current vaccines. Either way we need to find out what it is and how to stop it and prevent it. We are not ruling out anything at this point, but we still believe the bacteria is killing the animals though we do not know what is causing the bacteria to be allowed to reproduce in this manner. Doctor Cash has her suspicions. She needs help to proove it.

If you could PLEASE find a minute to send a small donation to Doctor Cash's clinic to cover the cost of this research. Even $5 will make a huge difference!!! Please earmark donations for OSU RESEARCH. If there is any leftover money. it will be donated to the Rogers County Humane Society to care for the strays. We dont need a fortune to do this, but I am trying to keep Doctor Cash from having to shoulder the expense on top of all the work she is contributing to this. She of course told me not to worry about it. I am acting on my own here. I feel it is important to show her that the community of animal owners is behind her. These reports are not exclusive to Claremore Oklahoma. This is happening all over.

Thank you and please circulate this email. I dont care WHO IS SAYING WHAT about hoaxes. When this is all over, everyone will know that this nightmare was justified. Just give us time. We will have your answers. We never meant to cause hysteria and apologize to the vets that are complaining to us. We only want to get this info out there to help the lab and others confirm our suspicions and diagnose the problem. We are gaining nothing from this except added work, headaches, and soon, lives saved. I am supporting Doctor Cash by volunteering at her clinic, helping with phone calls, sharing information and research. Again, I am not a vet, but I know a darn good one that listened to her determined, stubborn patients and went digging. She has found something and she wont quit until she proves it. Were almost there, but need more cases, more information and MUCH more support.

I will post ANY findings on my website as soon as I have them.

Symptoms: Quick onset of nausea, lethargy, and include vomiting and/or dark, runny strong smelling diarrhea. Most dangerous to young, old and small dogs and dogs with immune system problems. The onset is faster than parvo. Much faster. Dont wait. Get help.

Routine parvo treatments may eventually save these animals if caught early, though we have treated it in early stages for a quick turnaround and have had other vets who tried this, report positive results. The drug we are using is cephelexin 250mg per 25 lbs, ceph drops for puppies.

We need to know about ANY results either way. Please contact me! Thank you!
Annette King Tucker
wheartrnch@aol.com
Wild Heart Ranch Wildlife Rescue
918)341-9629
http://www.wildheartranch.org/
Dr. Lesleigh Cash-Warren
Hooves Paws and Claws
1840 W Country Club Rd
Claremore, Ok 74017
pathology reports or any pertinant info can be emailed to me, or faxed to Doctor Cash during business hours at 918)342-1512 (fax line only)

Im trying to cut her phone calls down. Her and I are in constant contact. Please call me with any information or basic questions, unless you have an emergency, then by all means, call your vet immediately. There is no time to wait if your animal has what we are working on.

For the vets that are furious with us for causing alarm in their practice, please put your guns down and give us some time. We know this is frustrating. We WILL have your answers. We either need support or silence right now. OSU told us to KEEP DIGGING!!!!!!! They need more test subjects and profiles. They are finding what we are describing. They need more cases to test. The only way we can do that is to go looking. Thats all the email is about. Sorry for the inconvenience.

We have also heard from a few other vets (out of state) that they tried to get attention for something like this in the past, but because of the bacteria involved, which is relatively common, just does not normally multiply to deadly porpotions like it is in this strain of 'whatever it is', they were harassed and discredited and eventually dropped it. Weve come too far. As long as we are getting information, we will keep going. Please help us.

09-27-2004, 09:25 AM	#2
fasteddie *YT 6000 Club Member* Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,238	Yikes! Time to keep the Yorkie at home and be very cautious around other dogs! Since this dog flu hits SMALL BREEDS! Sorry for the long posts, but this is important for us to know! Here's some more information as well: --- UPDATE 9-26-04 We have been working VERY hard on this. Doctor Cash is near exhaustion, but we are building steam. We believe we have our tissue samples from animals that died immediately upon arriving at the clinic. We are taking them to OSU tomorrow. We are learning many things on our own, through other vets and a pathologist who is aware of this and is helping us. The public and email has been the MOST helpful. We cant thank you enough!! The lab told us to KEEP GOING!! DONT STOP NOW!! WE ARE GETTING THERE!! We have opted to turn down further press until we have our lab results. We are getting WAY too many suspect reports to stop now. This is something new in our area, and it is MEAN. WHAT WE NEED: Anyone who has lost a dog to these symptoms or had one treated with these symptoms-we need the animals age, breed, housing conditions, vaccine history, any diagnostic information, tests run, treatment regiments, results etc. We need location and contact information of the owner and or vet. We do not care if the animal was seen by a vet or not. You can remain annonomous if you wish. Please come forward. The diagnosis may be unknown or may be gastro enteritis, parvo or poisoning either by an unconfirmed toxin or possible food poisoning or other. We are trying to get a profile of the affected areas and numbers reported showing a potential outbreak of higher than normal cases showing these symptoms. We dont have to have the technical info, though it would be helpful, but whatever you know is fine. So far, we are definitely seeing something. There is no question to Doctor Cash, some vets who are working to help us, and the lab at OSU is now on board and backing us 100%. Cats are included in this. We have NOT YET examined a cat with this condition, but are hearing possible reports. We do not want panic, we need information to help the lab find the answers so we can identify and stop this. We also need subjects to examine and treat so we can report results. If you have a vaccinated, healthy animal that died of these symptoms prior to medical treatment, Doctor Cash needs fresh tissue samples. It seems horrible, but we are asking for the sake of other animals that have a chance if we can only crack this. Please contact either one of us or have your vet send the tissue to the OSU lab. If you have unvaccinated young puppies dying of these symptoms, please let us know. ALSO, Doctor Cash is paying for the lab work that goes out of her clinic. I gave her what I could. It is already expensive, but will surely climb as we are covering the costs for any new subjects to be tested, and providing the courier service to the Lab in Stillwater. If there is anyone who travels to OSU from Claremore on a regular basis, we could use some help to cut costs. We are trying to save pets. We are working on behalf of the people who want to protect their pets. There is MUCH speculation that this is a hoax or we are looking at parvo. IT IS NOT A HOAX and yes, the way parvo works, we could be looking at a new strain. That is possible, but this strain is resistant to our current vaccines. Either way we need to find out what it is and how to stop it and prevent it. We are not ruling out anything at this point, but we still believe the bacteria is killing the animals though we do not know what is causing the bacteria to be allowed to reproduce in this manner. Doctor Cash has her suspicions. She needs help to proove it. If you could PLEASE find a minute to send a small donation to Doctor Cash's clinic to cover the cost of this research. Even $5 will make a huge difference!!! Please earmark donations for OSU RESEARCH. If there is any leftover money. it will be donated to the Rogers County Humane Society to care for the strays. We dont need a fortune to do this, but I am trying to keep Doctor Cash from having to shoulder the expense on top of all the work she is contributing to this. She of course told me not to worry about it. I am acting on my own here. I feel it is important to show her that the community of animal owners is behind her. These reports are not exclusive to Claremore Oklahoma. This is happening all over. Thank you and please circulate this email. I dont care WHO IS SAYING WHAT about hoaxes. When this is all over, everyone will know that this nightmare was justified. Just give us time. We will have your answers. We never meant to cause hysteria and apologize to the vets that are complaining to us. We only want to get this info out there to help the lab and others confirm our suspicions and diagnose the problem. We are gaining nothing from this except added work, headaches, and soon, lives saved. I am supporting Doctor Cash by volunteering at her clinic, helping with phone calls, sharing information and research. Again, I am not a vet, but I know a darn good one that listened to her determined, stubborn patients and went digging. She has found something and she wont quit until she proves it. Were almost there, but need more cases, more information and MUCH more support. I will post ANY findings on my website as soon as I have them. Symptoms: Quick onset of nausea, lethargy, and include vomiting and/or dark, runny strong smelling diarrhea. Most dangerous to young, old and small dogs and dogs with immune system problems. The onset is faster than parvo. Much faster. Dont wait. Get help. Routine parvo treatments may eventually save these animals if caught early, though we have treated it in early stages for a quick turnaround and have had other vets who tried this, report positive results. The drug we are using is cephelexin 250mg per 25 lbs, ceph drops for puppies. We need to know about ANY results either way. Please contact me! Thank you! Annette King Tucker wheartrnch@aol.com Wild Heart Ranch Wildlife Rescue 918)341-9629 http://www.wildheartranch.org/ Dr. Lesleigh Cash-Warren Hooves Paws and Claws 1840 W Country Club Rd Claremore, Ok 74017 pathology reports or any pertinant info can be emailed to me, or faxed to Doctor Cash during business hours at 918)342-1512 (fax line only) Im trying to cut her phone calls down. Her and I are in constant contact. Please call me with any information or basic questions, unless you have an emergency, then by all means, call your vet immediately. There is no time to wait if your animal has what we are working on. For the vets that are furious with us for causing alarm in their practice, please put your guns down and give us some time. We know this is frustrating. We WILL have your answers. We either need support or silence right now. OSU told us to KEEP DIGGING!!!!!!! They need more test subjects and profiles. They are finding what we are describing. They need more cases to test. The only way we can do that is to go looking. Thats all the email is about. Sorry for the inconvenience. We have also heard from a few other vets (out of state) that they tried to get attention for something like this in the past, but because of the bacteria involved, which is relatively common, just does not normally multiply to deadly porpotions like it is in this strain of 'whatever it is', they were harassed and discredited and eventually dropped it. Weve come too far. As long as we are getting information, we will keep going. Please help us. Last edited by fasteddie; 09-27-2004 at 09:30 AM.