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Originally Posted by Nancy1999  When you asked "Do you know her lines," I assume you mean that question to mean what a responsible breeder does when choosing a beading dog, you check back 4 or 5 generation on both sides and check out the lines to make sure there are no genetic illnesses. This is done by doing an extensive pedigree search and is no easy task. I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't understand that this is what you mean, and I doubt if he knows how to do it. Most pet owners think it means the dog's mother was registered and the dog was a purebred. Same with your other questions, most pet owners don't know what types of genetic testing to do on their dogs before they breed. Many genetic illnesses don't show up before the age of 2 and people are breeding the dogs by then, so these genetic tests are important, but you have to educate yourself to know what tests to do. Most vets will not even suggest this and when you ask the average vet, "is it okay to breed her", he’ll only check to see if she has the normal equipment necessary to breed, ie. a uterus. |
Nancy sigh this is so very true. General Vets know basically nothing about breeding. After all we have all these spay and neuter programs so why would they get educated through their medical universities on how and what to look for in a breeding male or female? We are left with the very rare repro vets and or general vets that actually do breed.
Ihave written before about my lost gal Zoey. Who was not a great or even good representative of the breed. And all the 3 different vets I went to over different issues, couldn't "understand" why I wouldn't breed her. I elaborated her three major structural faults, but hey no dice. Then I said her temperament is not what it should be for the breed. Finally they left me alone per say. Sad. But in one way good, as temperament at least appears to have a deep penetration in the ignorant (meaning lack of knowledge vets).
Actually I do know I would never have bred her for those many structural deficits. Apart from her temperament deficits.
You know, based on last years report on my beautiful male, I have destroyed his sperm I froze. I do not just expouse good breeding practices, I do them! I cried when I did this. Quite simply I did not want to be tempted in the future if I got that great female for him.......
This is apropos of nothing our OP posted, but as folks are reading this thread, mayhap they can see the heart-ache of breeding. Above you heard my story on two of my breeding dogs. BTW we lost Zoey to cancer last May.
Here is another. A lovely female of our Breed, had her second litter at four years old. All heath tested, CERF;s, thryoid. heart, HD, ED, hypeuricosuria, hearing et al.
She had problems with her second litter - it was necessary to spay her. The vet said it was a good thing you did, as her uterus was as thin as paper. If you had bred her again, she could have haemorraghed to death. The vet wanted to do further tests on blood on the uterus et al. My friend said no. NOt necessary. So was this Good Fortune or not?
Tis a Chinese proverb ... Bad Luck Good Luck who knows?
Go forward 18 or so months later. She has caught her toenail on a jump. She was competing for UD title. But it kept bleeding at home. Visit to vet. Nothing wrong - keep doing what you are doing. Three days later, bleeding is ongoing - my friend thinks her abdomen is swollen. Vet says lets do some bloodwork. Let me cauterized the nail. Three days later - still bleeding. My friend is panicked , get me US or Xray - do it NOW. VEt says something is wrong .... I will try for above..... they live in the country. Dog dies at the vet office that Night!
So is it good luck or bad luck? Should my friend have analyzed the uterus at the time of the spay? Would it have told her what went wrong? Was this some weird manifestation of Van willenbrads disease?
I as you know have agitated for my dog - through the vagarities of the veterinary system. In fact OVC actually now has a whole remedial center that I think is in part due to my agitating the President of the University with their less than ideal care of myself and my dog.