Thanks for the replies, nice to see I am not alone. Its so frustrating to have a pattern that doesnt work. I had tried to create ease in the sleeves as is often part of a pattern even tho it wasnt a step in this one and even then it just didnt fit (which is ridiculous lol) The craziest thing about this whole mess is that the pattern worked great with the smallest size but not with the larger one. So my solution was to order a Miss Daisy pattern. Her patterns are flawless and I am happy to say that I am putting the final touches on the hoodies that I have succesdfully made