Moki wasn't to bad. Still not trust worthy but he just turned 8 mo. He rings his bell to go outside.And outside he has a grass patch which I clean twice a week. Hose it with soap. And use a spare grass while ones drying. If I don't hear it there a pad he goes on. 95% trustworthy. But I'm good with my hands I built a cover prison for Moki to stay dry. He only goes in the yard with someone.
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