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Old 11-26-2012, 03:22 AM   #23
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I will say it again, I hate pit balls and am glad my town has an ordinance against them, if I see one in the neighborhood I will report it. I could care less that some are nice and gentle, they are living breathing accidents waiting to happen. With all the dog breeds in the world there are plenty of other breeds for people that like that type of a dog to choose from, so I have to say this is one breed that we can do without.
And when you put some family through hell because of your bias, because their dog happens to look enough like a pit bull to raise your ire, but hasn't a drop of pit bull in it, then what? When the owners of that black lab/rottie cross have to jump through hoops because of your hatred, what then? Or the people with the Boxer/GSD? But I guess it's OK, because it makes you THINK your safe, even though cities that have enacted BSL typically have NOT had a drop in dog bites, just a drop in bites from the targets breed, since the irresponsible owners more on to breeds that are not on the banned list.

I will freely admit that some breeds have a propensity to be dog aggressive. I admit that most of the people that own pit bulls have no business owning them. The thing that bothers me more, though, is the hatred towards a breed of dog. Not the individuals, but the whole breed. Even while knowing that a number of the breed are good and wonderful dog. It willfully denying that a number of the breed are good and wonderful dogs.

I guess it troubles me, because I have seen no one saying how much they hate labs or GSDs when they're involved in a mauling. Recently a JRT killed an infant, but no one is screaming about that... Even though just as many breeds are identified in dog attacks, and the pit bull is greatly OVER identified, even though news stories show the dog in question to have very little to no pit in them, even after IDing the attacking dog as a pit bull, even though news stories will have headline screaming about pit bull attacks, and the dog in the story ends up being a boxer or american bulldog or some kind of mastiff.

Because of my current research into AR/AW, that willingness to destroy, that hatred based on breed is especially troublesome, as I know that AR fanatics are using breed banning as a way to push their agenda, and they really don't care if innocent dogs get caught up in the breed sweep, since they want to end all pet ownership anyway.

I'm sorry you hate a breed where in MOST of the dogs of that breed have never done anything to you, and would never do anything to you. I hope one day you're able to let that hatred go. It's really not healthy.

And maybe when you get your statistics, you get them from somewhere other than a site that has a known vendetta against the pit bull breed.
The FACT is maybe med sized short hairted dogs are misidentified as pit bulls. That pit bull attacks are grossly over reported in the media, and that BECAUSE there is no proof of breed other than the victims word that it was a pit bull (usually), who is to say that the dog in question WAS a pit bull?

Dog Bites
A study* was conducted of 40 children (aged 0 to 16) who had been admitted to two hospitals in Washington State and a hospital in Missouri for severe dog bite injuries. These admissions had taken place over a period of nine years.
Dogs identified as other than "pit bull" dogs were responsible for 36 of the 40 incidents of death or hospitalization due to severe dog bite injuries.
Further, none of the dogs involved in the three fatalities were identified as "pit bull" dogs.

I like the reports here.
It says this about most of the cases.. Photographs were submitted to NCRC’s expert advisor who concluded that the breed of the dog could not be reasonably determined from the photographs. At least one of the cases I know to have been reported as pit bulla or pit bull mixes as it was a local incident, that one being the Christine Staab case, which most people feel was justified, all things considered.
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/2010%20DBRF%20Report_Final_7.pdf
More can be found here
Dog Bite-Related Fatalities | Canine Research Council

Do I think them unbiased? No, I don't, but I think they present a more balanced picture than the anti pit bull brigade. They have a free download that makes for interesting reading called The Pit Bull Placebo, found here
NCRC Publications | National Canine Research Council

Look, in a nutshell, several mix type dogs LOOK like the generic pit bull, anything with boxer, rottie, lab, or shar-pei in them can look to the untrained eye to have or be a pit bull, especially when MOST PEOPLE HAVEN'T A CLUE WHAT A PIT BULL LOOKS LIKE.

Here is a good example.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../Dogs/Kuji.jpg
I can't tell you how many times I have been told that this CHAMPION SHOW DOG is NOT a pit bull.

Whatever, you have made up your mind and like anyone with a bias, nothing will change it, and you will look for proof for your point, and anything, no matter how erroneous will do. In the meanwhile I will continue to fight against breed specific legislation and promote the enforcement of current dog laws, which are MORE than enough IF they're enforced, as I recognize that BSL is just a camels nose way of preventing dog ownership of any kind, as more and more breeds are targeted one by one.

@yorkietalkjilly Excellent point. I wish that everyone was as rational as you.
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