[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Yorkiesatwork

I've been on the wrong side of a few issues before, so will just venture forth with this. The Poster was asking for input from folks that are using or have tried the 'electric fence'. Most of the posters have strong opinions, but have not said they have ever installed and used an underground fence. Technically, they don't qualify to post on this thread. First of all, the modern 'electric fence' is not a shock barrier. If you've ever had a 'tens machine' used on you by a chiropractor or physician, you would know it is a muscle stimulator electrode system that at appropriate levels relieves pain -- not creates pain.

To be sure, I wouldn't necessarily want to be 'Tens'd' around my neck at an intense level, but there really isn't any way for it to damage me physically.

I put in the underground fence, so I feel qualified to post. For my bigger and milder mannered Yorkie (9#), one correction at the lowest level is all it took. He wants nothing to do with the boundaries of the yard and is content to sit in his chair near the sidewalk. I trust him for (very) short periods of time outside in the sun while I clean house and do laundry.

My little guy (6#) is another story... He becomes enraged whenever anyone dares walk or run down the street in front of the house or if a neighbor's children begin to play in their own yard. It's as if he is possessed by demons! The fence people said that no dog has challenged the fence for any length of time. My subdivision does not allow fence structures in the front yard, and I don't really have a back yard. Sooo I put in the underground fence. He challenged the fence at increasing levels of correction! Although the fence stops him on three sides of the yard, he continues to run the fence when the neighbors two little boys try to play football in their own yard. I'm dismayed, but have not given up. What is my alternative? He does not train; cannot hear; does not respond to anything when he goes into his rage. I can only try to protect him and my neighbors with a barrier, and my best bet right now is the Underground fence. So please... if you've never tried the underground fence, take a step back for a few minutes; and if you HAVE tried it, whether it was a success or failure, we are interested in your personal experiences. thank you.

If all of our posts where not allowed or should not be here a moderator would take care of it and sense I don't see that you are a moderator lets leave telling people what they can and cannot post to them. With out a real fence all small dogs and some medium size dogs are pray to other animals and people. My dad has also tried one of these collars on his neck and he said it did hurt and he is a tuff tuff guy. Shocking a under 3 pound puppy is going to be very bad for that puppy and to be honest if member on here didn't speak against it and just ignored it I would be disappointed in the members here because this very dangerous to do to a small puppy and this owner needs to know about that. If people don't care about the shock to the dog or about other animals turning them into dinner maybe they need to look at how many yorkies that are being stolen and its really easy for someone to pick up your dog take there collar off and then either use your dog as bait in dog fighting, sell to a random stranger who might take care of them or might not or sell them to a puppy mill and they will have a life or misery in a cage being breed for there rest of there life living hungry and in there own filth. I guess if you are willing to take all those risks it probably dosent matter if you dog is getting shocked and causing it pain and maybe damaging its body.