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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 This is the one point that I would agree with. I think they need to define what they mean by breeding female, if it's means any unspayed female over 4 months of age, I don't think that's a good definition. However, again, this would only apply to those breeders who sell with no face to face interaction. In other words those breeders who sell from the websites. I would hope you breeders could have influence on defining this term better. Unfortunately it’s so hard to get good breeder to help in producing good legislation, they are afraid of any legislation because of what "others" have told them about it, and so it’s the commercial breeders who help compose it. A good breeder is much more likely to a puppy 4 months of age, still unsold, than a commercial breeder is.
You say why do we need the law? You’re missing an important point, I don't know why I can't get this across, but right now, the breeders who sell directly to the public do not need any kennel inspections or licenses, the original law was made to cover those breeders who sell to pet stores and brokers, and they have to be licensed by the USDA. This is designed to so that those breeders, who sell from their websites, will need now to have licenses if they have more than four breeding females. Everyone here always discourages people from buying from pet stores; they say no reputable breeder would ever sell to a pet store. Well, many of these commercial breeders have stopped using pet stores as their primary outlet and now they don’t even have any laws that touch them, because those breeders who sell directly to the public do not need to be licensed. What is so horrible about getting a license and having to be inspected? If you’re with the AKC you have to subject yourself to inspections anyway. Unfortunately, most of these commercial breeders are no longer with the AKC and have created their own registries. If you aren’t selling from your website, this bill wouldn’t affect you. I looked at your website, it tells about your breeding program, it doesn't have a PayPal button where an unseen person can purchase a dog without any type of human interaction. That's the type of breeder they want to regulate and inspect. |
Look at the discussion back and forth and how we've confused ourselves and each other trying to interpret this law.
There are already laws on the books that are supposed to put bad breeders out of business. If we enforce those with all our might these new laws won't be needed.
I do believe that all localities now have some kind of animal control laws that require kennel licensing and inspection of homes with 4 or more dogs. That should catch most of the bad breeders out there. I can support developing and enforcing those PROVIDED there are safeguards against rogue raids such as I was subjected to. As it stands, if one's animals are seized in a raid, they are never returned, even when the owner later prevails in court. This needs to be looked at.
I suppose someone could secretly have a kennel and be selling puppies directly on the internet, but that's underground business and the types that engage in that will always find a way to carry on.
My fear is the more law there is, the less people will understand it, and the more likely someone innocent will be harmed.