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Originally Posted by magicgenie  I think the regulation is for breeders with 4 OR MORE breeding females, but the legislation fails to define what constitutes a breeding female. Do they mean breeding age females? Females of any age that have been previously bred? Newborns that may be bred in the future? It's impossible to have a breeding program with only 3 females anyway, regardless of definition of breeding female, at least not if you're trying to establish a new line. I didn't read anything about the sellers and buyers have to meet. The legislation addresses situations where the buyer doesn't go to the seller's premises. The bad guys will soon arrange to have agents at every buyer's disposal to circumvent that requirement.
Why do we need this law? Every breeder is supposed to have a kennel license and inspection at the local level--city, town, county, state. AKC inspects us too. Why not have their reports forwarded to the powers that be. Why is the fed not just providing financial support so the locals can enforce the laws that are already in place?
This new law is going to cause a lot of confusion when inspectors find that some little breeder's living room isn't engineered to whatever the sanitation standards are for USDA---don't they require certain flooring materials and drains to facilitate cleaning, things that would apply well to a big big puppy farm?
People who buy puppies over the internet sight unseen from people they know nothing about are just plain careless, IMHO, and trying to protect them from themselves is futile.
I'm glad to see this discussion taking place, and very politely at that! |
This is the one point that I would agree with. I think they need to define what they mean by breeding female, if it's means any unspayed female over 4 months of age, I don't think that's a good definition. However, again, this would only apply to those breeders who sell with no face to face interaction. In other words those breeders who sell from the websites. I would hope you breeders could have influence on defining this term better. Unfortunately it’s so hard to get good breeder to help in producing good legislation, they are afraid of any legislation because of what "others" have told them about it, and so it’s the commercial breeders who help compose it. A good breeder is much more likely to a puppy 4 months of age, still unsold, than a commercial breeder is.
You say why do we need the law? You’re missing an important point, I don't know why I can't get this across, but right now, the breeders who sell directly to the public do not need any kennel inspections or licenses, the original law was made to cover those breeders who sell to pet stores and brokers, and they have to be licensed by the USDA. This is designed to so that those breeders, who sell from their websites, will need now to have licenses if they have more than four breeding females. Everyone here always discourages people from buying from pet stores; they say no reputable breeder would ever sell to a pet store. Well, many of these commercial breeders have stopped using pet stores as their primary outlet and now they don’t even have any laws that touch them, because those breeders who sell directly to the public do not need to be licensed. What is so horrible about getting a license and having to be inspected? If you’re with the AKC you have to subject yourself to inspections anyway. Unfortunately, most of these commercial breeders are no longer with the AKC and have created their own registries. If you aren’t selling from your website, this bill wouldn’t affect you. I looked at your website, it tells about your breeding program, it doesn't have a PayPal button where an unseen person can purchase a dog without any type of human interaction. That's the type of breeder they want to regulate and inspect.