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					Originally Posted by DBlain  While you are most likely referring to people that train with shock, not the OP, don't you see how as a new member with not much experience on YT might feel that you were talking about her as a What #$%& would even try to house break like this? Not someone who should have a pet!    While I know you mean well it's a shame you get so carried away with your beliefs that you can't comment without hurting the feelings or pizzing off someone that did not deserve it. | 
 
  I feel bullied my responses are being commented on. 
While not polite,as I dont feel it should be on this topic, as long as I dont break rule which is a mods job to decide if it inappropriate. 
I gave my opinion on the topic. 
My opinion is based on a general statement not specific to or involving name calling to the op. 
Also refer to my usertitle...its threads like this that earned it. 
BTW whis to say the OP isnt against these collars and didnt make thia thread q to prove to someone at home their point...its all how you read it. 
We dont all agree hense the value of these threads being open to opinions.
I ts probably obvious I feel shock collars being used for training is pure and simple animal cruelty. 
I have vibration only collars I bought to proce a point I assure everyone a simple vibration is enough...howeven even a vibration only collar being specified would still result in my precious post response.